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PFS3 vs SFS
« on: November 11, 2003, 11:34:02 AM »
Hi All,

i'm still using PFS3 18.5 from a life but in the last week, i'v downloaded SFS (and today downloaded and installed the lastversion 1.212).

I've done some intensive testings on the same HD with the internal A4000 IDE host interface.

So . . .SFS is terribly slow in:

Dir-Scan  (less than last OS3.9 FFS)

Delete (the worst)

Seek/Reed


I've set 200 buffers for the SFS partition (PFS3 only 100)

Have i set something wrong?

Thanks

Cheers

PS-Benchmark tool= SysSpeed 2.6

 

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2003, 11:53:51 AM »
@ lionstorm

512 the same as in PFS3.

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PS- note that SFS il slower ONLY in that 3 test comparision.

 

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2003, 01:34:38 PM »
@Jope

i've installed SFS, due a problem with an app that i'm testing.

With PFS3 i have some corrupted blocks and other strange behaviours (very strange for PFS3) so i've switched (for only one partition), to SFS lastversion.

SFS seems very slow in the Delete operation.

Anyway a very good replacment for PFS3.

Ciao

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2003, 01:57:18 PM »
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by Wishmaster on 2003/11/12 14:49:12

Newer SFS versions are terrilby slow.
Some older Version were much faster, I think 1.85 or something.

yes i agree but just a little :-)

Before installing the last SFS 1.212, i've tested SFS 1.193 (OS3.9 CD) but the speed is quite the same.

I don't know about SFS 1.85.(seems a very old version)

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2003, 02:52:27 PM »
@Lempkee

with my 040@30mhz and the internal A4000 IDE port?

Already tryed in the past, but with no speed increase.

Ciao

PS- now with PFS3 i have near 9 times speed more than a plain 040@25Mhz with FFS (in Create operation)

PPS- From the docs: suggested blocksize for PFS3=512K . . .use 1024 only with fast and modern SCSI HD.

For SFS . .  .quite the same.

 

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2003, 03:47:02 PM »
Hi CU_AMiGA

OK . . .relax . . .sit down . . .drink a camomilla :-)

You have done the right thimg. SFS is more reliable and . . .  .it is free!

I was talking about speed not reliability.

Stay with SFS without any problem :-)

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2003, 03:55:48 PM »
@ Wishmaster

no, no, no please don't give wrong suggestion please!

@CU_AMIGA

follow the SFS docs that is better :-D

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2003, 04:14:51 PM »
Hi CU_AMiGA

so tell me:

HDToolbox version (OS39 BB-2) should be 45.6

SFS version (it is important)

IDE or SCSI HD? and size.

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2003, 04:27:27 PM »
Hi CU_AMIGA

it is a four years ago version!

The problem now, is that is not compatible with the latest versions.

Have you some data on the new HD?

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2003, 04:34:59 PM »
@CU_AMIGA

just emailed to you.

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2003, 04:59:03 PM »
@CU_AMIGA

copy SmartFileSystem in L:

copy ALL the related tools in C:

Open HDToolbox, and choose your HD

Divide the disk in some partitions (the first one must be unser 2GB if you want to boot from that) less is better.

Click on the Update filesystem button

Delete the old SFS filesystem

click on Add New Filesystem button and choose the new one from L: (then click OK)

Click on CHANGE:

CFS\00

Block 512

Mask (the same of the other HD/partition)

MaxTransfer (the same of the other HD/partition)

REPEAT for all the other partitions. . . .and SAVE.

Ciao

PS- choose the buffers, you can (min 100)

If you have a lot of ram, you choose 200-300


 

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2003, 03:47:09 PM »
@ CU_AMIGA

oh my God! again :-)

so, SFS\0 WAS related to some ancient version of SFS (ie SFS 1.58).

The important is the identfier (that can't be oxooooo)

With SFS 1.212 you must have:

CFS\00
Identifier= GHOSTED (but must be 0x43465300)

If you wish you can select CUSTOM but you must type the identif. manually (0x43465300)

Anyway SFS now has an internal automatic identifier.

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2003, 12:58:22 PM »
@CU_AMiGA

OK lets all so :-)

Now it is you that can help me:

Have you used the HDToolbox that i've sent to you?

Those SFS\00 and id. 0x53465300 it is RIGHT (is an internal option as reported by the docs).

Now i wish to know :

can someone tell me why, i have

SFS 1.212 Smartfilesystem CFS\00 with id 0x43465300?

In my HDToolbox, i can't choose SFS\00 (is not in the list)

Why?

Thanks in advance

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2003, 01:27:52 PM »
@CU_AMIGA

so when i choose from HDToolbox the new filesystem i have:

Add new filesystem:

ID= 0x43465300
Version= 1.212
Dimension= 78224
Filesystem name= L:Smartfilesystem [File system custom CFS\00]

And in CHANGE:

5 options

-Filesystem standard
-Filesystem custom
-CFS\00
-PFS\03
-UNI\01

as you can see i haven't SFS\00 so

OR

i must choose CFS\00 with a ghosted ID(0x43465300)

OR

i can choose Custom fylesystem and type manually the above ID.

MASK= 0x7FFFFFFE
MAX TRANSFER= 0x0001FE00
BLOCKS=512

with all FFS related option GHOSTED.

Can someone explain me why?

The partition is a 1.9GB in size.

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Re: PFS3 vs SFS
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2003, 12:00:17 PM »
@CU_AMiGA

with the hope to close this thread forever, the last version of HDToolbox (BB-2 v.45.6) that i have sent to you , detects all the FS that aren't FFS like CFS\00 (if you have more than one SFS version installed, it will be CFS\01, CFS\02 and so on).

Here with SFS 1.212 and HDToolbox 45.6 i have:

CFS\00

0x43465300

But don't worry . . . .your version of HDToolbox reads the internal id SFS\00 id.0x53465300  as well.

by the docs:

"From SFS ver 1.190
*  Fixed ACTION_INHIBIT,DOSTRUE.
a  SFS is now a resident module (DOSType=0x53465300, 'SFS\0')."

Your config is OK.

Ciao

PS- and by the way CU_AMIGA, i've installed SFS some days before you, don't you remember? :-)
and it works perfectly.
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