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Re: It's official Blu-Ray wins!
« on: February 27, 2008, 05:45:03 AM »
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Just correcting your erroneous statement, I don't give a {bleep} about HD or geek battles over which language is best.


I think you did yourself in with that one. ;-) There's no direct correlation between the language and the services provided by the underlying system. Java without its standard libraries and a complete JVM, e.g. a piss poor subset of J2ME, is no more useful than ECMAScript without a host environment. For what it's worth, I use ECMAScript as my primary scripting language in Windows, and coupled with custom type libraries, it can do just about anything any other COM-aware language can do. I guess it's all about how you use it. (Think of the Visual Basic hacking days of yore--a time that redefined rapid development and permanently changed the face of in-house software development.) Some day, Sun will revoke its runtime license grants and force all Java developers and users to pay exorbitant license fees.

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I'm rather sad that Blu-Ray "won." From a consumer standpoint, HD-DVD was the superior choice: 1) players are backward compatible with DVD (not compulsory for Blu-Ray players), 2) the standard was finished (Blu-Ray is coming up on Profile 2.0, and nothing currently on the market other than the PS3 is forward compatible--in other words, eff you Early Adopters), and 3) HD-DVD lacked region coding. Add to that the Blu-Ray "feature" that allows a vendor to disable your player on the fly if it thinks it's been tampered with, Sony's typical proprietary license structure, and the lack of direct retail competition (apart from legacy DVD), and Blu-Ray is going to have consumers bending over and taking it for years to come.

I'll give Blu-Ray kudos for its capacity lead over HD-DVD, but I buy movies to watch movies. I'd rather cut down on the extras than put up with media providers trying to control what I do and when I do it.
 

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Re: It's official Blu-Ray wins!
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2008, 09:37:58 PM »
@Hans_

I don't think region coding was ever added to the HD-DVD specification. I believe there were talks to add it, but at this point, I guess it doesn't matter.

Re: key revoking. Isn't this implemented using key recovation lists on HD-DVD media? I don't have the technical details, but I don't think it's possible for a new HD-DVD title to prevent a player from playing an older HD-DVD title; however, I do believe it is possible for a new Blu-Ray title to completely disable a Blu-Ray player. Trying to sort out the technical details....

@Speelgoedmannetje

For a Blu-Ray player to be backwards compatible, the optical bits would have to support reading CD and DVD media. Such compatibility is not mandatory for Blu-Ray players.