Brand New Sam460ex

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It is positive to see new hardware for 4.1. I even got interested again, after selling my Peg2 with 4.1 last year (and I payed 180 euros for that sweet little motherboard but felt even that was a bit too much).

Then áfter I read the news of new SAM I ended up on MooBunny, then I read about the MOS on Mac Mini experience above here.

Confusion set in, sorry, I dont get it and I am afraid to ask on aw.net, maybe I get my third warning there if I would (not that I really care, I am such a rebel -not-).

...but anyway, is it not in the best interest of 4.1 that it would be released for Mac Mini PPC to? Is the main reason you need to pay ~600 euro for the mobo (or 1000+ euro for x-computer) alone just so that Amiga dealers can force to sell 4.1 together with the mobo?

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wopps. .wrong.

You should read a bit on Moobunny if you want to see the dark side of Amiga companies actions

But remember, dont come to me crying when all you have been told to believe is not true ok

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The place to go if you want to read misinformation by trolls.. I have to admit that there is a few interesting threads there though, but most of the shit there is just trolling..

Yes, I agree with you, partly, but for someone like myself who was away between 2000 and 2004 (the GW2000 fiasco made me sell of every Amiga I had and delete my folder of 50+ bookmarked Amiga-sites) it is quite interesting to find out where all this blue/red war came from for example and to get a different opinion of the state of Amiga today.

Moo bunny is Amiga reality in a cold harsh way, IMHO. ok, back to track again ;-)

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Maybe they feel it will be easier porting OS 4.x if every 460ex user has a known base quantity as regards graphics and sound ?

Isn't having standardized graphics and sound true to the original Amiga?

 I'm glad to see ACube still trying to kep the dream alive ;I just wish econimcs were more favorable.Amigans must admit this is much more capable than an A500 which sold for $700-$800 new when introduced.

Yeah, but dont forget that back then that A500 had incredible performance for less than half the price of other similar computers of those times.

Proof in pudding is what you do with the system, it is one thing to cash down 800 big ones on a nische computer in 2010, it is another to have it on your desk every day and find out you never use it, for myself, I sold my NG Amiga because ultimately it was just a toy, although a very cool toy and a nice experience to for a little while play in the alternative reality where if it was 1998 and AmigaOS was ported to PPC, but it is not 1998, it is f"n 2010

So I advice everytone to get one if you feel the need to, try it out, post your opinion, make yourself heard, the market is relatively stable so you can probably get back 60-80% what you invested if you sell it on.

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Yeah..

But the point I was trying to make (and I failed ) was that if the price is low enough I can justify have a toy on my desk, but then I also need to feed my toy with something, else it lacks purpose, I need to feed it software, there comes os4depot in light.

It is not the same for classic for me, I do not need new software for my classics to enjoy them since I want to run the software I am fond of from back when classic was defacto standard in the Amiga world on them.

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What you describe is a so called "business model" - and it is different from the MorphOS team. I suppose they try to build a new base of hardware AND software combination with more than one system deliverer. In this context the HW company makes some money, the software company makes some money, the dealers make some money - especially if they build systems for customers (like my sam440ep was pre-assembled by my dealer).
Of course the software part in this model could make more money if they port the OS to Macintoshs. But up to now Hyperion still exists and ACube still exists and AmigaKit and Vesalia as well - so it seems to work.

Yes, I guess it makes sense by describing it with a business model.

But actually it makes no sense at all.

A companys main priority is to make money. If Hyperion believed in OS4.1 they would port it to Mac Mini ASAP (and they would bake in runinUAE so oldschool Amiga users would be able to play shadow of the beast with a simple click), they would make some money for sure.

But somehow I got the impression they are hiding their real passion and reason for developing this OS of 4.1, if it was just the joy of developing an AmigaOS4.1 clone of Workbench 3.1 I am sure we would see happy devs from Hyperion spreading the OS4.1 love on forums, now see only grumpy old men complaining of the community IMHO. Maybe the real reason, the big MAP in making lots of cashish from Amiga is yet to be anounced. Because in my narrow mind I fail to believe you can make lots of money with the NG Amiga built from the real arian AmigaOS source as it is today.

Anyways,, who cares. Amiga 1200 with 060 and 3.1 will be here forever and that is what makes the world go round lol ;-)