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Re: Minimig released for real!
« on: February 10, 2008, 05:09:20 PM »
Someone made a booboo and released the info a day early  :-D
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2008, 07:44:41 PM »
The Minimig has an onboard Flicker Fixer / Scandoubler

There's no IDE port yet so no, you can't hookup a harddrive.
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2008, 07:58:20 PM »
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The Minimig has an onboard Flicker Fixer / Scandoubler

There's no IDE port yet so no, you can't hookup a harddrive.


awesome!!
So the flicker will still be there then?

oh well....


Actually, no flicker since Minimig has an Amber implementation.  
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2008, 08:03:16 PM »
That's the beauty of FPGA, you can add certain features without breaking compatibility.

btw: Minimig is NOT 100% compatible. Yet. There are a few things broken, however most things work.
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2008, 12:55:08 PM »
I think Acube should clarify the Minimig is not a finished computer and cannot run out of the box. The amount of information on their website is too little and confusing to end-users (just look at the questions at this thread alone, all those questions have been answered before, but the information is scattered all around the 'net and in some part, outdated.
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2008, 05:14:35 PM »
Thing is, the Minimig has it's own formfactor, you'd have to build a case from scratch. And you raise a point about the sandwhich case, dust is never a good thing for electronics.

I too like the looks, it's a clean design. I won't be ordering one soon though, too expensive for me and I already have an option on an original Amiga 3000 which will be mine in just under two weeks time.
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2008, 06:36:05 PM »
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I expect some joker will install a minimig in the largest atx tower he can find.


**looks up** What?!??!?

**hides the SGI Crimson chasis under his desk**


SGI???

**tries to cover up his Onyx system



 :lol:
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2008, 06:52:48 PM »
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I think Acube should clarify the Minimig is not a finished computer and cannot run out of the box.

You need to copy kickstart (and a few ADF's) onto the SD card that comes with it, that's all.

Hardly rocket science.


It might be for people who don't own anything Amiga related anymore, at least you need Amiga Forever or an original ROM to be legal. Ok, there are ways around it if you do a good search  here and there but that's not my point. They should post that kind of info on their website. For people who followed the Minimig it's easy to get it running, but imagine a newbe interested into it, buy it and to discover they can't use it?
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2008, 07:04:07 PM »
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at least you need Amiga Forever or an original ROM to be legal.

Amiga Forever ROM's wont work of course, cos they are encrypted (but you can just dump them in WinUAE using DumpROM to unencrypt them ;-))

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imagine a newbe interested into it, buy it and to discover they can't use it?

Yeah right! There will be no "newbies" buying MiniMig's. I doubt there will be many oldies either.


Amiga Forever gives you the licence to use the roms.

And I already had people asking me about Minimig because they where interested but didn't know anything about it, they just expect it to work just like that (Oh so I just hook up a keyboard, mouse and monitor and I have a working Amiga? And then I go on about explaining it has no floppydrive port but an SD card for floppy images, and the rom situation....
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2008, 07:15:07 PM »
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. Using them with MiniMig... I think it might fall outside the terms of their license. (And  thus your end user license)


You've got a point there, so people should buy a real rom then? Then again, I don't think anyone cares if you use an illegal rom on whatever platform/emulator thing you have. It's not as if the Minimig is sold with it.
Gray area though, and I wonder if some unnamed company is going to cause problems.

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I actually considered putting the MiniMig inside the Crimson (as I have a few empty bays atm) as a little joke at work.


Please let us know if you did, I like pranks like that  :lol:
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 08:24:22 AM »
Erm, isn't the Minimig supposed to spit out VGA refresh rates above the 60hz barrier? If not, people are going to be returning Minimigs !! (I missed your edited message, and I didn't know that..)

Most modern monitors hate anything below 60hz nowadays..
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 09:49:01 AM »
Ouch!

See, this is what I mean by lack of information on a website selling stuff. This is mandatory information.

Could it be doubled in the code?
 

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Re: Minimig released for real!
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 10:26:59 AM »
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It would take less than half a day to convert a MiniMig into to an NTSC OCS Amiga (60Hz).

http://www.opencircuits.com/Minimig_NTSC

I am really surprised that there has been no MiniMig updates (from anyone) since it's release (except T68)

Now if ACube sent me a board (hint hint) ;-)

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Could it be doubled in the code?

Possibly, but most LCD monitors don't sync to 100Hz either.


The availabilty of a fully assembled Minimig now is possibly going to generate more interest, since not every coder is handy with soldering, especially the smd parts and the FPGA.

I know about the frequenty range of lcd monitors (mine only accepts up to 75hz) but there are tons of CRT's around that can handle 100hz and upwards.