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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:26:08 AM »
You need kickstarts with appropriate name in DEVS:Kickstarts
(see WHDLoad manual).Giving you links to those would mean
my execution :rtfm:

You can only install ADFs of original games as far as I know.
Games are out there in pre-installed form (usually in .zip format) to
save you the trouble.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2015, 11:45:54 AM »
Whdload looks for .slave file.Some games are unpacked and
have Data directory while others have diskimages but those
are not ADFs.

If I was looking for Whdload games I would Google "whdload games
download".Maybe you can find some games that way :) If anyone
thinks this is a bit too much I won't mind my post being edited.

You are looking for zip files that are mostly about 1-3 Mb large.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 08:39:30 AM »
@RedWarrior

I can't remember when I used installer from WHDLoad for something
but as I said I think it expects real floppy (original) in floppy drive
to create WHDLoad install of it.

You can use UnADF from Aminet to write ADFs to floppy drive and then
insert floppy and use WHDLoad intstaller.Most ADFs out there are not
originals though and won't work with WHDLoad (Demos should work).

Maybe stupid comment but I think you need that select button only
when floppy has been read to save raw image , really not sure.

Doing it this way will take you (Amiga :roflmao:) forever.Look for pre-installed
WHDLoad games , all are there.If you take WHDL and download and make one word you get word WHDownload.Then you add .com to it and all you need is there pre-intstalled (demos too).

@AmigaBruno

Option I used was WinUAE and real PATA hard drive connected
to PC motherboard.Then selecting "real hard drive option" there and it would work fine.Add another Directory from PC
as drive and copy files there.I don't know if CF-IDE should
work this way but I think it's very likely it should.

Other option is to use PCMCIA card on Amiga (Again there is Aminet driver for those larger that 4 Mb) and copy files there
and read them on PC (PCMCIA is FAT formatted so you should be able to read it on any Windows , Linux).
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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2015, 10:33:05 AM »
Lol :)

Well I'm guessing that newer installers support ADFs while older
ones require floppies.I didn't really have much luck either with manual
installing.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2015, 09:27:37 AM »
Well you need Kick 1.3 but it has to have correct name.

Names as follows (in devs:kickstarts) :

KICK33180.A500
KICK33180.A500.RTB
KICK34005.A500
KICK34005.A500.RTB
KICK40068.A1200
KICK40068.A1200.RTB

These are from A500 and A1200 , all games will work with them.
Size of A500 ROMS is 256 Kb and A1200 512 Kb.Amiga forever has
encrypted Roms , I have no clue if they will work.

Few more hints : You need extra memory to run games in WHDLoad.
That can be cause of problem.Original games can hardly be found in
ADFs , you need IPFs and a way to get them on floppy.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2015, 09:33:49 PM »
You need more memory that's for sure , otherwise clicking twice
will do nothing.

Those names are only names.In reality that's Kick 1.2 1.3 and 3.0 as
extracted from real Amiga.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2015, 12:59:59 PM »
Dungeon Master 2 and  Bloodnet at least can be installed without
WHDLoad (if memory serves) and you won't need more memory than 2 Mb.

As for accelerator card I'd say Blizzard1220/28/4-8Mb or Blizzard1230/56(
I really think it's 56 and not 50 , A1200 can only be something divided by
14 but not an expert)/8-16 Mb if you can find them anywhere.Or even just
regular 4 Mb Fast Ram Board (still gives 2 x speed and almost all works).

Booting without startup-seq is only needed if game needs more CHIP ram.
Try booting with this :

(DH0 should be your system partition)
C:Setpatch QUIET
C:Version >NIL:
FailAt 21

C:Assign C: DH0:C (just in case,WHDload is there)
C:Makedir RAM:ENV
C:Makedir RAM:T
C:Assign ENV: RAM:ENV
C:Assign T: RAM:T
C:Assign Devs: DH0:devs
C:Assign Fonts: DH0:Fonts
C:Loadwb
C:EndCli

Make sure you use 4 color Workbench to save Chip Ram.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2015, 09:04:33 PM »
Just remove whole PRELOAD line from icon.

It tells game to load all game data in memory and start it from
there to avoid accessing hard drive (in case it's slow).

I think that might not be the problem , WHDLoad is smart enough
to know if you don't have enough memory so it ignores PRELOAD.
In case of bigger games it can take some time to PRELOAD (if a game
is say from CD32 version and has lots of data).
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2015, 08:46:44 PM »
Ah , those strange characters are newicon , if you are fine with seeing
little square instead picture of icon you can remove them or download
newicons workbench patch from Aminet.

Yes , 4 Mb is enough for most games.You can install some games with
just 2 Mb and play from hard drive.Mostly ones that are not NDOS and
have installer on first or last floppy in the meantime.
 

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Re: Amiga puzzle - disconnected worlds! help?
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2015, 09:42:27 AM »
I like squares , reminds me of 90s and KillNewIcons experiment :lol:

@AmigaBruno

There are games you can play on hard drive without use of WHDLoad as
I said.Dungeon Master II for example,Gloom,games that came on 7-8
floppies etc.They have option to install to hard drive without use of
WHDLoad and most of them were ECS games so you can play them
with 2 Mb without problems.Play with those in mean time.Deluxe Galaga
should be one of those games too.Or you can use WHDLoad to install
all games you will play in the future and then just transfer when card
arrives.Or just play Deluxe Galaga :roflmao: