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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« on: July 26, 2013, 04:50:50 PM »
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I cannot remember the exact phrases and he did not say how much more expensive. I think he was saying that he wants not to compete with Acube even if that would be possible. And that he would use the earnings for other related projects. And he said that the successor might be cheaper (as the X1000) but that is not certain. I assume that it will be similar to X1000 (my guess).

With the plan he proposes it is impossible to make if for anything less
than 2250 $ (+- 100 $) with custom case mouse keyboard and all ...

It will certainly be more expensive than that ... CPU is just not the
biggest cost in this and I agree with Nicholas that in business dog
eats dog ...

I can only imagine how "happy" ACube was when they heard that
another hardware manufacturer was entering tiny tiny market ...
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 05:14:03 PM »
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all I care about is he's a passionate amiga user 1'st and that to date he has done what he has said he would do:) ..now if certain 'businessmen' had accomplished half of what he has done for the Amiga community then.....you get the drift;)

It is _my personal opinion_ that "he" could do a lot better if he really
wanted to ...

AmigaOne x1000 has split existing users and although I never liked ACube
strategy with Samantha no better at least ACube was always trying to
support all three camps to the best of their ability ...
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 05:46:36 PM »
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my goodness now you are asking for miracles:crazy: my 'personal opinion' is that 'we' all can do alot better if 'we' really wanted to:razz: Trevor is a self-admitted big advocoate for AmigaOS and Amiga inspired OS's (AROS & MOS).    

seriously though, how in good faith did the X1000 split existing users?? I sold my Samflex@800 to buy a new X1000 because I wanted to & it fills my needs.  I also bought a dedicated netbook to run AROS (AspireOS) because I wanted to & it fills my needs. So where is the splitting part ??

My last post about AEon strategy for a while in news thread ...

2500 $ machine is not a dream of Morphos user and no Aros user will
buy it probably ( not developer , user ) , simple enough ?
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 06:30:35 PM »
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'DID' is the operative word.  Let's await Blizz1220's new design on the hardware front for NOW ;)

When I said Aros/Morphos/AOS4 I meant Aros OR Morphos OR AmigaOS 4 ...
Just as long it is cheap and it is called Amiga ...

Enter new users ...

Make it only AmigaOS 4 and make it expensive and there will be no new users ... But I wasn't clear , I agree ... Although new users may come for one camp only most of them will be at least curious about other camps ...

But it's gotta be cheap and called Amiga(something.something) ...
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 06:45:42 PM »
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You've got a big stumbling block there, Hyperion.

No , I don't think so ... Benjamin got you all a little bit to scared in 2005 and now everyone thinks that is the case ...

But stumbling block that exists is AmigaOS 4 users and I see no reason why
they would be the enemy ...

Trevor could make custom case keyboard and mouse , put G5 motherboard in there and Ben would be only to happy to let him port AmigaOS 4 to this new
A-Eon machine ... Sure , he would scream a lot but than he would have no choice , we could all buy it than and live happily ever after ...
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 08:51:28 PM »
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G5s are dated, currently Trevor is very much right.
More powerful Qorlq based products are coming out.

If anyone is serious, we can start now by raising money.
Talk is cheap.
Motherboards with SMD components and several layers are not.

All PPC is dead unless you're building a router or something like that ...
I don't hate Trevor's idea because it's Trevor's , I would hate your idea
to do the same thing even more because of the prior knowledge ...

Here's an idea :

Build a PCI-E PPC expansion card for Mac or PC , it would cost less
and you could run all NG oses on that machine ...

It would still cost more than used G4 Powerbook ...
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 09:26:07 PM »
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Consider the highlight.
I was talking to Paul Gentle at about the same time Trevor (unknown to me) initially was (in my case about MPC8641/8640 SoCs, which Paul also had experience with).
And no, it wasn't Trevor's idea, it was McBill's and Ack Systems (they set the spec that the Nemo meets).
Paul, on the other hand, wanted to use Qorlq processors (and that is what the X2000 will be based on).
Don't assume you know what your talking about.
Our design was about 75% done (and oddly enough without knowing it used the same Southbridge as the X1000).
At the same time Bill Buck and at least two other parties were considering MPC8610 based boards .

What I respect is Trevor went to the right company, threw his own money in, and got it done.
And I'm really impressed with Paul Gentle.
I backed out when the estimated costs would have meant a second mortgage on my home.

And I don't care what you do or do not 'hate'.
Actions speak louder than words.

Don't want to join us?
You are free to use AROS.

PPCs have more than enough power for our demands and there is always ARM if the need to migrate occurs.

Well I'm speechless ...
Old Macs are good enough for me , Morphos is fast enough OS on G4 ...
And you're right , you clearly have much better idea about this than
me ... You will probably get less users than Trevor though , he has the
advantage of am Amiga name ... I'm really done now ...
 

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Re: Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2013, 01:47:04 PM »
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Yep only right that Ben Hermans gets the same fair treatment as all the keys players from that time.  All of them have a website dedicated to the worst things they said back in 2002 or whenever which is regularly dragged up to show what a bad person they are.

Ahem ...

http://wrongpla.net/news/article159.html

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: