The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated

[DaveP]

So is this a taster of Amiga.org magazine or just a rejected article?

[DaveP]

@Tig

Now now don't be silly.

You know as well as I do that Party Pack and CAM promotions
would not be included in that figure unless a class action
was undertaken and was successful.

You know nothing of the status of the employment of the
Amiga Inc staf, how they have been paid ( salaried? options? per
profit? voluntary ).

 the judge in the bankruptcy court (especially if its a liquidation) usually declares null & void all contracts made by the company

Really upsets you that Hyperion and Eyetech may continue to
trade unnaffected doesn't it. I notice you have finally allowed that
chink of doubt to creep into your argument "usually" and you still
miss out who the contract is with - or perhaps you do not know yourself?

Still, in order for there to be fear there first has to be uncertainty
and a dose of doubt.

[DaveP]

@-D-

Theres an old saying, before you pull the trigger on a loaded gun, first aim it.

In otherwords, where do I shoot James "messenger"?

 :-?

This has all the hallmarks of a magazine editorial article, from the "Staff Writer" to the way it is structured. Hence my first comment.

My second comment was aimed at Bill "Tigger" Evans holding forth his usual "expert" legal opinion.

[DaveP]

@KennyR

I think you just went too far again Kenny.

But first, in answer to the salient part of your post:

And I think Genesi has got better things to do that try to win over the last few hundred fanatics by attacking AInc.

Who sayes that is their motivation? A dead Amiga Inc would be good business for Genesi. Else why would they want AmigaDE which has been openly criticised by Bill Buck in the past? Who sayes the number of "fanatics" numbers only in the hundreds. Sales figures I have seen put the number of currently sold and dispatched A1 boards at over 1300 units - and thats BEFORE AOS4 is out.

It has a product and a willing market outside the myopic fanaticism of the dregs which remain of the Amiga community.

Really? How many outside of the "dregs which remain of the Amiga community" bought a Pegasos? Which of the 500 odd that bought rather than were given?

As yet, what willing market? Peg2 is aimed at development and developers, Peg3 may be aimed at consumers.

No need to be so rude.

 Don't flatter yourselves that the MOS people would even want the all the name-followers and the crazies.

Well once could be as rude as you and say they have a lot of followers who are there only because they are anti-name and crazy.

Still, I feel you are being insulting and you have insulted me - according to you I am either crazy or a name follower - I am neither. I am just a consumer. In fact your aggressiveness is indicative of what stopped me buying a Peg1 in the first place.

It's not as if they can code, is it? (No, just beg for ports...)

For gods sake, if this post of yours Kenny remains unmoderated and you remain unwarned then Amiga.org needs a kick up the bum.

[DaveP]

Let the courts decide.

[DaveP]

Freedom of speech I agree with Kenny, freedom to be rude I do not.

Ponder the difference between these two statements:

#1 President Bush made an error of judgement over Iraq, this will be the way history remembers him. People that side with Bush at the moment either fail to see this or give him too much leeway.

#2 President Bush is a retard, he f**ked up over Iraq. Those that stick up for him are just crazies and cultists.

I do not wish to be insulted, you insulted me as you insulted anyone who fails to be moved by your invective.

As for my reasons for not buying a Pegasos, they remain as a matter of principle. I will not buy them as long as "mouthy blue trolls" continue to be as rude, insulting and devisive as you so wonderfully demonstrated. If you and others put your arguments with less venom and vitriol and a damn sight more respect for your fellow Amiga community members then I would not feel so alienated.

Instead of buying a Pegasos, I have bought ( each time I had the free money available and seriously thought about it I end up reading something like the above from you ):

1. A playstation 2
2. A portable DVD player and LCD screen
3. An LCD screen TV
4. A new PC
5. A Compaq IPaq

What will it be this time I wonder?

[DaveP]

Excuse me, I am not saying that this article is biased, although frankly I fail to understand why it is even posted now rather than a month ago when it would have been more pertinent. However, that is a minor issue.

What I dislike is that you continue to allow an insulting tone and for those that have chosen not to buy into Pegasos be described as "crazies" and "followers of the name". KennyR clearly posted flamebait. Yet it still goes unmoderated.

[DaveP]

Very clear to me Kenny, so why did you chose to reply in the tone of #2.

I would expect an intelligent adult to initially try to raise the tone, not lower it. Then, if this fails, try to talk in the same language e.g. #2.

The first is being respectful, and putting the point of view across ( although light on rationale ), the second similarly puts the point of view across but liberally insults too.

[DaveP]

Kenny

I am not twisting your words to suit my agenda. You call the remaining Amiga users "dregs", "crazies" and "name followers". Your tone is insulting in the least.

Given two moderators have been here now, and failed to moderate your post ( and the responses to it ) I have to conclude that flamebait against those that are waiting for AOS4 and AmigaONE and who put counter arguments up for Amiga Inc is now acceptable under site policy and say goodbye to Amiga.org.

Now Kees, will you please delete my account. I have as promised stuck around to reconsider but it is exactly this kind of occurance ( and now see KennyR trying to distance himself from his own behaviour ) that leaves a bad taste in my mouth as an Amiga.org reader.

I certainly will not be logging in again.