MOS / OS4 FAQ

[DaveP]

Mike

That is strange because when I looked at the FAQ
a few days ago it told you where to email the maintainer at the bottom.

Oh it still does!

ps. Digby has taken the time to respond to your "facts" on ANN:
http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1034360747&category=rant&number=13

I doubt too that people will take the time to update the FAQ every day but then stuff happens on the scene that effects it like once a month maximum.

You sound more than a little sour about the FAQ - is it
because it talked about MorphOS first? No doubt
reflect and Digby would have got s**t from the MOS fans if AOS was first...

[DaveP]

You are posting a lot of comments that do sound like it has wound you up.

I do not read it so harshly. I read that statement as being pretty true. I also agree with you that it hurts the marketplace in general but it does not say
"it is in the interest of the community that there is incessant flame war" it is pointing out it is in Amiga Incs interest to have doubts over the legality of a competitor product ( true ) and it is in Thendics interest to have doubts over the ability of Hyperion and co to progress for childish reason X,Y,Z and it is in Thendics interest that a personal vendetta is carried out against Amiga Inc over the licensing and branding of Amiga hardware.

[DaveP]

"but IMO it would have been best to let Ben Hermans and other leading (MorphOS/Amiga Inc) figures read this list and wait for their responses,"

Oh so we get this in several months and it would come back completely uncorrupted by either side and totally unbiased eh? lol! This from a buch of idiots that can't write once decent press release between them.

" at least before releasing this as *the* facts or "FUDBUSTER" list publicly."

Where does this say it is the one true version of the facts ( what you are implying ). It even goes as far to say treat the FAQ with the same "skepticism" as the rest of what you hear!

[DaveP]

"But IMO it is NOT in Amiga Inc's interest for people to believe that the Amiga market includes criminals. "

*grin*

Oh I see what you are saying quite clearly. You are
saying, beating around the bush a bit, that Amiga Inc
made all these public announcements and Fleecy and Ben ANN posts about the "illegality" of the MorphOS project ( unproven ) to prepare us.

However that just happens to drive those of us that
want to buy a "legal" product away from MorphOS - I mean who would back an OS that has legal doubts over it - it might get sued into oblivion!

Oh hang on thats in Amiga Incs direct interest because more people are now likely to buy AmigaOS4 and treat MorphOS as a lower credibility non alternative.

If they were so noble minded why didnt they just lodge a court case instead of constantly repeating the ( unproven in court ) allegations on public forums WITHOUT taking action?

Why would ANYONE do that?

Hmmmm

To prepare the "amiga community"

Dont make me laugh.

However the FAQ does NOT degenerate to this level of fluff picking it just warns people that it is in the interest of Company A that fans of company A spread rumour about potential problems with competitor company B, its products or its staff. That is what FUD is!

Sticking your head in the sand won't help anyone Mike.

Dave

AmigOS advocate and Hyperion fan.

[DaveP]

"IMO you are wrong, these issues will result in *less* AmigaOS4 and MorphOS sales. Because of these issues Amiga Inc is viewed as incompetent and the Amiga market as a bunch of situation abusing criminals."

LOL :-) Yep. But then its not total market that these fools look at when they get into these situation it is market share. What better way to ensure your market share is the biggest if you can convince the market that your competitor is:
a. out of cash
b. illegally sourcing its products
c. not able to complete work on time
d. incompetant
e. subject to legal action
f. using slave labor
g. smoking far too many camberwell carrots to get the job done

"For the record, nobody of you know if legal action is being taken, or if some cases deserve priority, as they are easier to win and there are only limited resources available."

Well quite. It sayes that in the FUDBUSTER too.

[DaveP]

I am still trying to find in the FUDBUSTER FAQ where it sayes that it is **the** facts.

1.9.2 sayes this even:  "Its business, look for the intent behind the innuendo and treat everything reported as fact ( including this FAQ ) with guarded suspiscion."

[DaveP]

"This list is being presented as a non-biased facts list. But actually it combines facts, with opinions and some misleading information I have pointed out. IMO there is enough available of that already."

CODSWALLOP Mike!

It sayes in the FAQ do not accept it as being unbiased NO WHERE does it say that it is THE FACTS
and others have pointed out to you flaws in your reasoning but you do not follow them up properly so why should reflect or Digby bother paying you the same level of attention?

[DaveP]

Digby pointed this out as a reasonable alternative on ANN which was pretty much ignored.

The problem is that most people seem to consider their own personal opinions are "facts" and if the FAQ does not square exactly with their opinions then it is "misinformation".

FUDBUSTER implies it attempts to contain no FUD and to counter the FUD. I think it achieves that admirably.

Where do you think the innaccuracies are? Or are you talking about there being insufficient detail? Note that the FUDBUSTER contains a section which offers more information from the "horses mouth" but note that the horses themselves are prone to innaccuracies.

I dont think Digby can win... there certainly seem to be plenty of people out there willing to stick it to him.

[DaveP]

"1) No justfication is given anymore for spreading FUD or misinformation by extremists."
Bollocks Mike. It still sayes the same thing it was just reworded to
force those that did not read it properly to actually understand what
it sayes. It never justified it in the first place.