Amiga, Inc. and Bernd Meyer announce licensing of Amithlon 2.0

[DaveP]

Kronos, why dont you just apologise to Red and be done with it. It sounds to me like you *know* you shouldnt have got so personal on the other thread and making a joke out of it doesnt seem to be working IMHO.

On topic I seriously doubt that Amithlon will need to be torpedoed because it will only support AOS3.9 and potentially 5.x. The intervening increments are PPC only.

Seeing conspiracy theories everywhere does nothing more than give people like cheesegrate an excuse to live.

Dave.

[DaveP]

Well exactly. But Kronos did say:

I was not talking about the bad-mouthing that has been done by Ben
in the past, but about what could come in the near future.

Which suggests that at the back of his mind was Hyperion and not H+P as well as Bens "not on x86" stance.

Sure 5.x is utter vapour etc etc but then so is Amithlon s future plans. I dont see anything technologically that sayes that AmigaOS's future is irreversably tied to PPC. Perhaps you could elaborate further on that point.

Dave.

[DaveP]

Amithlon exists
AmigaOS exists
Intent exists
The so called HAL layer in AOS4 exists

Amithlon 3.x does not exist
AOS5.x does not exist

How is one more vapour than the other? The technological foundations for a future exist in component form the work has not been done for either "future" directions that may or may not exist.

Therefore anything not released or near to release is vapourware. The foundations might NOT be vapourware ergo Amithlons future is as vapourous as AOS5.x.

QED.

As for the rest I see business imperatives that would make it more attractive NOT to develop for x86 ( well IA64 because if we have the timescales correct IA32 doesnt have a long term future ).

However, businesses and marketplaces do not stay the same - they shift quite quickly and while we might not be able to see an architecture agnostic future based on the Hogget Crystal Ball if nothing technlogically is done to technically exclude an agnostic future there is no practical reason ( yours included ) why given sufficient business imperative ( and thats what it should be based on ) there should not be an AOS that runs seamlessly on x86 in the future.

Ive seen too much in the market change in short periods of time to be as absolutist as you are on the issue.

Dave.

[DaveP]

Thats just my point both of those are what "might" happen,
roadmaps might be published for one or another ( 3.x was hypothetical btw )
but it makes them no more or no less vapourware until someone or some people
make serious inroads into them as a product.

I wouldnt bet my house on it and I wouldnt bet my house on it
not coming to fruition.

Frankly I dont care because AmigaOS is currently smaller than a
proverbial minnow and its direction is totally up to the existing
marketplace and any new marketplace that can be defined.

I also want to see AOS as something I can put on an LPAR on a
z800 box but until its happening Im not going to sit here and cry about
it.

Taking the PPC route does not prohibit ( or "rule out" ) any other
hardware platforms being adopted in the future - it just means
they have been ruled out for now.

Big deal.

Dave.

[DaveP]

Well, I agree with Hyperion that there is no realistic business case for AmigaOS to exist in the short on x86 with a future until the Linux/Windows situation has played its way out and the applications software on AOS starts to come together.

Starting where only MacOS(consumer), Linux(not exactly popular) and AIX (high end) are the competition is a good thing in my opinion.

Depending on what happens with the hardware platforms and the operating systems over the coming year this is bound to be even more or less of the case.