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[DaveP]

@Redrumloa

So is there anything about MorphOS and Pegasos at the show that we did not already know? Maybe MorphOS1.4 isn't a beta now? Or maybe Peg 2 isn't going to be a BT3 type project? Have they selected a northbridge supplier so they can make Peg3 real? C'mon spill the beans :-)

@-D-

Glad to hear someone other than me has picked up on the Hyperion quality obsession. :-)

I am split 50/50 about whether its a good idea, if they had done what Bplan did with MorphOS and "got it out there" regardless on PPC hardware it might have crashed a lot and we would kiss goodbye to the AmigaOS "reputation" for not being responsible for everyday crashes ( although lack of application space crash protection is still annoying ).

OTOH they might have saved themselves from a lot off troll-slam crap from the fanatics.

However MorphOS got itself a reputation for crashing ( deserved or not ) by being first out the "door". So which project management evil you gonna take? For once we have the opportunity to observe what happens to both methods of producing products in the real world. Interesting ( for me )

Expectations are running so high at the moment.

[DaveP]

You know I said as much myself, and got liberally flamed for it.

Want me to publish a list of links?

In fact, on a topic the other day, Hooligan spoofed the whole debate in a witty way, and you IIRC contributed to that topic, something like "MorphOS is buggy crap, only beta etc".

Heres the quote ( MorphOS on A1 )

Oh no not again

.. But what I have learned from past half a year, they tell, MorphOS is buggy, in beta stage, lacks features etc. etc.

Why would any selfrespecting AmigaOne owner want it when they have OS4 ?

Note that he finds someone calling it in beta stage "smud" so watch your back.
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Ambient was shown on a number of occasions, in public, most famously in WOASE ( ? ) where all people were doing for months afterwards ( even now ) was referring to its buggy nature.

Then we have the video microwave thing that also did the same ( again ).

Point is, its a beta, its not finished, but its in the public eye and people will have their bread and circusses.

You may wish to see here a prime example:
http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1057607185&category=news&number=71#comment

And see how it gets resolved down between me and one other person ( yet others keep butting in to try and start a flamewar over it ).

Dave. :-P

[DaveP]

LOL  :-D

[DaveP]

Very funny  and extremely innaccurate Now turn that talent to something useful

[DaveP]

I am split 50/50 about whether its a good idea, if they had done what Bplan did with MorphOS and "got it out there" regardless on PPC hardware it might have crashed a lot and we would kiss goodbye to the AmigaOS "reputation" for not being responsible for everyday crashes ( although lack of application space crash protection is still annoying ).

See? They could have released it earlier BUT they know they will get crucified if its released earlier than it otherwise would be.

I haven't said "Oh yes well AmigaOS4 would have been released before MorphOS otherwise" or even that this is the only reason.

Sheesh.

[DaveP]

@Magnetic

@Dave P
Its funny that such a cute avatar can hide such a troll!

Grow up dude.

 You are talking absolute BS about MorphOS. I have been running MOS 1.3 since April and it is more reliable than OS 3.9 and Amiga 4000T here.

No, you fool, go and read it again, I said that it got a reputation deserved or undeserved for being crash prone after two erroneous showings where Ambient crashed like hell.

I never said it was less reliable than AmigaOS, I pointed out the two project management choices you have - release something to the public that is less than ready and claim the laurels of being first out but take the rough when it visibly sucks in public ( WOASE prime example ) *OR* sit on it until it is totally bug free ( unrealistic ) 'OR' somewhere between A and b.

Blah blah snip propaganda. Get over it and next time read properly Magnetic. Bread and circusses mate.

Neither you or Gary_C have any idea about the internal state of the AmigaOS4 project, or what priorities they have set. However suffice to say you have to admit if they released something that crashed when a mouse was moved on the desktop they would get burned in hell by you guys :-) This is, dear Magnetic, what I am pointing out to you.

The reason they have not released a public Beta is that they are not, and may never, run a public Beta, and certainly never claim its a final product, unlike some of the more fanatical and stupid "camp" members of the blue team did with MorphOS.

READ IT PROPERLY BEFORE FLAMING ME NEXT TIME!