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I think its a question of heritage. Without the operating systems neither Peg or A1 retain enough of the Amiga hardware heritage ( any! ) to be called "Amigas" purely from that point of view.

AmigaONE with AOS4 will contain a significant amount of Amiga heritage - apart from ExecSG which is wholly new - in terms of source tree and re-use.

MorphOS with Pegasos will contain some Amiga heritage, that is the look and feel and the API but distinctly less.

Then finally you have the userbase, both contain users that have classic Amigas - but then so does the Windows and Linux communities so I think that one is far more nebulous.

So summary, in order of true Amiganess ( most to least ):
    A1 with AOS4
    Peg with MOS
    A1 and Peg on their own


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@Lando

Can you tone down your flamebait a bit. Some of us are trying to have a civilised discussion in here.
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@Desolator

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they compiled it into one of those "computer inside a keyboard" solutions might I call it an Amiga. But not a true Amiga... not Jay Miners vision


What an interesting point of view! I can see where you are coming from ( A500/A1200 ) but the A3000, A1000, A4000 and T variants are all Amigas too yes? And the C64, Spectrum, AtariST were all "computers inside a keyboard" and were not Amiga.

Still, I agree, a "computer inside a keyboard" variant would be VERY attractive as a purchase and immediately recognisable to the A500/A1200 fans which frankly were where all the sales went.
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@takemehomegrandma

Im sure you are not trying to be deliberately obtuse but that is not what I mean by flamebait. Deliberately posting distorted rubbish as facts is flamebait and nothing to do with opinion.

I have resisted the flamebait by not answering it in the way I ordinarily would, however I am trying to ask Lando to politely desist else we will end up in a flamewar.

This is what, in my view, constitutes flamebait:

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AmigaOne: No
It's a generic board, buggy


Generic board?
Buggy?

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the name fanatics purchasing one,

Calling owners "name fanatics".

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especially with all the problems people have been experiencing,

What problems?

And this is what will wreck a conversation, it has little to do with opinion and everything to do with trying to stir the ####.


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@Lando

Hardly, see response above.

Or you could continue to stick your head in the sand and carry on posting flamebait.
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@Downix

Quite the opposite.

How you managed to contract what I wrote in response to "Desolator" ( who said basically what you just attributed to me ) I have no idea.

I can only assume you skim read.

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@Downix

Well that is absolutely not my opinion on the matter. :-)

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@Fot

You can identify the ones for whom this is a bit of gang warfare and not a normal experience. They get personal about the general group people that don't agree with them calling them "zealouts" and other silly names as a put down.

To be fair to meerschaum he only writes like this after excess alchohol.

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If we can seperate "true Amiga" from the overloaded use of "worthy successor" then it is, unfortunately for some, anything with the brand AMiGA on it.

Some would consider the Amiga600 not to be a true Amiga for the "worthy sucessor" reason, although I quite like the A600.
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@Kronos

Defining what brought us to the Amiga does not define the Amiga. :-)

If you were looking for the pizazz wow factor in everything then there are quite a few non Amiga products and very few Amiga products after the A500 that would be branded "Amiga". Besides thats all "worthy sucessor".

What makes Unix Unix? At least there you could give a technical answer that people would be prepared to debate.
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Re: Do you consider either the PegososPPCs or AmigaOne to be true Amigas?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2003, 12:55:45 PM »
@Warface

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to be true Amigas?


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Don't get the word "true" into the debate please.

From your post.

Nuff said.
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Re: Do you consider either the PegososPPCs or AmigaOne to be true Amigas?
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2003, 01:03:52 PM »
@Warface

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Re: Do you consider either the PegososPPCs or AmigaOne to be true Amigas?
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2003, 01:07:44 PM »
@Kronos

....archimedes.... first time I saw RiscOS I thought ... nice fonts ( anitaliased ) .... second time I played Zarch for hours :-)
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Re: Do you consider either the PegososPPCs or AmigaOne to be true Amigas?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2003, 02:07:31 PM »
@Warface

Does not mean its an acceptable or worthy sucessor ;-)
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