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Offline DaveP

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Re: AmigaOne based WebServers
« Reply #14 from previous page: February 02, 2003, 10:14:51 AM »
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An AmigaOne would be a crummy choice for a webserver, you can get a doorstop pentium practically free for this purpose as they litter the earth, why spend all that on an exotic piece of Amiga hardware just to run a mundane webserver that any old $0.02 discarded PC can do?


Well if you wanted to support the platform against the odds I guess ;-) I have to agree with you. The only reason my 43p is sitting there on the T1  is because the OS it runs is probably my favourite and secondly because I have a lot of SCSI devices attached to it.

If I were buying from scratch for it I would probably not buy an old mini or micro ATX PC because of the power problems trying to run so many networking cards and devices micro-ATX presents - it would probably be a second hand netfinity or something for a couple of hundred quid.

I would not personally consider the A1 SE or XE boards as a logical step up from where i am and not a logical first buy for a web server.

So... agreed.

( actually therein is a good reason to consider an ATX based board over a Micro-ATX based board - I wouldn't even be able to get all my network cards into a microATX ).

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Re: AmigaOne based WebServers
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2003, 01:05:35 PM »
I agree with most of what you say but this:

" If you plan to use a dynamic site with a database behind it, then forget about it. They're just not up to the job."

Au contraire, they are quite up to the job. The issue then is less data transfer ( esp with databases that don't always go to persistent storage to retrieve results  :-D ) and more CPU power.

The issue is less maintenance ( backup sites can always be brought online and switched over to take the other offline ) or uninterruptable power supplies. The issue is  cost vs value.

If the value you want is low volumes ( >1 million complex dynamic page hits per day ) and you aren't doing business critical applications ( such as a banking site or shopping site where a missed transaction equates to money ) then an ATX based board is quite adequate to the task.

Data mirroring can happen without costly RAID by using an ethernet connection and an exit to drive a mirror transaction against a remote version of the database. Maybe one, two hours of programming!

These days a hell of a lot of overkill is ordered by greedy web hosting techies that don't think hard enough about fitness for purpose and try to scare money out of procurement managers ;-)

Frankly I would rather pick up a second hand netfinity for 500 quid but...

I don't know what Wayne uses but it is a good example of a popular site which could easily be hosted on an ATX.

Something like www.tesco.com should be hosted on special hardware with data and processor redundancy built into the design. But then if you are going to do that use something that has ACID properties to run it on ( like WebSphere, MQSeries and DB2 ).
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Re: AmigaOne based WebServers
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2003, 05:41:20 PM »
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About client's .. well..,Their names (or boards we make for them) are unfortunately not public info. It would be a lot easier for us if they were but it's not something I can make decision on.

Don't worry I was just interested in what your target market was. In business it is useful to have testimonials which is a good way of showing people the markets perspective on how products get used.

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  And frankly, our existing clients means a lot more to me than getting your 'respect' on this board...


Thats good because you wouldn't get my 'respect' over something like that, it was a side question.
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