Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003

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Gabriel...While I dont take direct 'glee' in watching Amiga.inc fail I do think that if they do it can only mean good things for the communuty... I pity you guys for following them... my best wishes to you... to them... I have no pity... I dont judge them... I just dont like them and what they've done to amiga... AmigaDE in my opinon was a shallow attempt to milk the name it has about as much to do with amiga as honey has to do with vinegar, the ROM is another milking attempt, the constant BS surrounding them e.g garry hare,offices,phone lines,auction, now this....its just more and more and more nonsense... I dont trust them at all... and I dont think very many people who look at this objectively can trust them either...
I'm not stating anything but my opinon...for what its worth I think you should look at this objectively... .

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You know, that has *never* made any sense to me. Why is the "community" so negatively influenced by Amiga Inc that the company failing would be a "good thing for the community". I mean, really. Aren't you in control of your own destiny? If you choose to support a different platform, do so. Find others who support that platform, and move your "community" there and just forget about Amiga Inc, if you don't wish to be associated with Amiga Inc.

cheap dodge... they control amiga IP...and this is the amiga(and now clones) community...telling people 'agree with amiga.inc or leave the amiga community' is a pathetic outlook... this community is older then amiga.inc and will be here after they are done... that is fact...

And that's a fair enough opinion for you to have. Doesn't justify belittling those who do not agree with your opinion, however, and (I know this may not apply to you directly) it does not justify this "take Amiga Inc down!" attitude evident by so many on this forum.

well I think it does...some feel jaded... some are angry about things they've had done to them and seen done to others... this isnt a fanclub of people devoted to amiga.inc...if people feel their hurting the community and doing wrong...they are free to let them know about it...

Oh, gee, thanks for your generosity here.

your welcome...

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They control Amiga OS and the Amiga DE. They do not control MorphOS (currently Amiga OS 3.x compatible), they do not control AROS. Unless there is an IP issue that could tie the noose around MorphOS's neck, then there shouldn't be a problem, unless I'm missing something. The community is not "beholden" to Amiga Inc. Only those who wish to follow the "real" (according to some definition of "real") AmigaOS rely on Amiga Inc. There *are* alternatives. Or are things really so insecure that MorphOS needs official validation by Amiga Inc?

yes .... perfectly true...

That's *not* what I said. Let me say it again - if Amiga Inc does not go in the direction that the "community" wants it to go, then the "community" is perfectly capable (well, maybe not, seems like there is some sort of weird name-dependency cult going on) of moving in another direction - again, I call as witness the existence of MorphOS and AROS.

see by saying that your implying 'like it or leave it' ... and thats simply not going to happen... trying to pursuade people to 'shutup and be a nice little zealot' ... or give pity to those zealots who believe somehow that making games for cell phones is 'amiga oriented' ... aside from the name Amiga I dont see how DE has anything to do with this community at all... some propogandists have tried to spin it so it sounds like it does...but DE dosent run on Amigas, cant run Amiga apps...and it isnt developed with anything amiga (the genre not the name) in mind.... I know people say 'OS5' and whatnot... I dont buy it...

Yeah, some feel jaded and all that. They are genuine feelings that people are allowed to have. But how on earth does that justify belittling others (like myself) who have different experiences/different opinions? I'm not saying noone's been wronged, noone's been hurt, I just don't think that justifies certain actions - there are much more mature ways of dealing with things.

if belitting amiga.inc is belitting you then complain to them...they made their bed and if you feel you belong in it...then maybe you can explain all the nonsense going on with them???....
If wayne or anyone else wants to make things more difficult for them... I think its fine... they have certinly made things difficult for some people in this community by their inaction, indifferance, negligence and even what I would consider distortion of the truth...