Alans reply to Bill

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-my Opinon rant on this one-

lets see what BBRV has done for this community in the 2.5 years

made a motherboard

brought it to market

made an OS

brought it to market

given out jobs to many people in a bad  economic  climate   (the adverse bieng if he had taken money and screwed people in a weak economy)

gone to many shows promoting his product

helped developers by not only funding them but by listening to them

brought hardware issues into the limelight not tried to cover up the weakness of the articia chips(in fact replaceing many Pegs that where flawed w/o the hardware fix)... and furthermore tried to protect future buyers by contacting IBM to get their cert taken away so other companies dont have the same folly

I know BBRV's been a bit abbrasive to some at times...but overall he's done more good for this community in 3 years then anyone else has done since commodore...and thats a fact... we've finally gotten a new age solution, a company to support it, and leadership that seems capable of keeping it above water long enough to develop into something worthwhile.



about alans post though...

1: who cares about more articias anyway... the marvel chipset has many more features and is newer... plus it dosent have flaws

2:if IBM is backing up a  buggy chipset they shouldnt put their name on it... I find it hard to believe their angry about it...

3:who cares about OS4 Peggy has MOS and AI seems to be in a dubious situation as is... not something to act on high about e.g 'you offended the great amiga.inc ' as if their possible anger toward genesi matters..

4:Genesi makes their own OS and Boards ... maybe Hyperion is a bit angry...but the best defense to  so-called 'fud' is to prove it wrong and make OS4 into a great OS and bring it out quickly...

I dont have anything against Alan ... he's got his opinons and thats all fine and good...I hope we see 'competition' in this market so I dont really object to the A1/Pegasos competing... but if he had responded with something like 'what you said and wrong and this is why' and proceeded to explain... I would give him alot more credit...as-is he did not outright say 'the chipset is fine, stop telling fibs' ... I think the articia issue hurts us all its not one sided...if indeed it is flawed..

-the above is my personal OPINON not to be mistaken for fact-

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ohhh come on... you turned a solution provider that actually 'provides' for this community in some sort of folk monster... BBRV is just trying to develop a market...and thankfully its with an amiga compatible...

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@PulsatingQuasar I'd like to you find one incidence where BBRV personally attacked someone outright like that... he's never done that from what I've seen..

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uncharted to me its like this...you need to 'earn' my respect and admiration... Alan hasnt done that.... has he created a motherboard? has he created an OS? has he come down to the grass roots level to talk to people like me and others about the platform?..... he'll win my respect when he does some of those things....
I hope BBRV dosent sink down to the level of responding to his post there... if indeed that is/was his post...

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niether of the two people in question have done the things you mention

BPlan is part of Genesi... MorphOS team is part of Genesi... Genesi therefore holds credit for all those things... BBRV bieng the head of Genesi does deserve credit for bringing it all together...

. Both have bought into someone elses motherboard

BPlan is part of Genesi... and BPlan makes the Pegasos... pegasos is not someone elses product re-badged

I give BBRV and Genesi credit... BBRV took all the elements and brought them together into one complete company... to create a complete solution... to me thats a far cry from 'you pay me and I'll let you make an OS" ....