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Offline AmigaBruno

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« on: May 10, 2013, 04:05:31 PM »
I wonder if someone can help me? I've recently tried and failed to install AROS Icaros Desktop and I haven't even got a copy of Aeros yet, because the server was being rebuilt or something like that. It's now scheduled to download within the next 2 hours.

I prefer the idea of Aeros because my original plan in 1999 was to run Linux to continue the same attitude as the Amiga, but then I found that Linux looked and felt too much like Windows, no matter which distro I used.

My laptop is a Toshiba Satellite C660D, with an AMD E-350 CPU (64bit, dual core 1.6Ghz), 2Gb RAM ("1.6Gb usable"?!), and a 320Gb hard drive. It came with Windoze 7 Home Premium. After my first failure to install AROS Icaros Desktop, I installed Ubuntu Linux 12.10, but had to give it only half the drive because it didn't tell me which partition was for Linux!

Whenever I try to install AROS Icaros Desktop, first of all under Windoze I click on a file I think is called called Win32-start.bat, which runs AROS Icaros Desktop under Qemu, but an error comes up in a console (i.e. MS-DOS) window saying that the accelerator program has failed. I clicked on the OWB browser icon, which then took 6 minutes to start up! When I click on the icon to install AROS, it takes over an hour no matter which options I select. I'm not able to select and save a keyboard layout or locale settings, then I just have to click on Cancel to get out of them. I read various messages for most of the time saying that AROS is copying and installing files, after being told that I've already set up AROS partitions. I have no idea where these partitions are. Finally, I get a message saying that AROS is running a post installation script, after a warning that it will seem like the installer has frozen. This never ends, or if it does I don't know how many hours I'm supposed to wait. I then cancel, or close the whole AROS Icaros Desktop Qemu window, then reboot to find that there's no sign of AROS at all!

Of course, I've had a warning that AROS has no guarantee that it won't corrupt data on its own or all partitions on my hard drive. How serious should I take this?

I've seen AmigaOS 4.1 IRL and I'm not very impressed, because most of the time people seem to use it for Internet access instead of for creating something. AmigaOS 4.1 Kickstart starts to boot with a text only screen and then an X shaped pointer appears, meaning there's a Linux/UNIX X Windows server. Of course, the Amiga OS/Workbench/AmigaDOS is descended from UNIX via Tripos, and Commodore announced that they were basing a new Amiga OS around Linux, so there's no reason it shouldn't use X Windows. Unfortunately, it demands specific custom hardware, or upgraded classic hardware in order to run. AFAIK there's no reason it couldn't run on a Power PC Mac, or a Power PC games console (e.g. PS3, XBox 360, or Wii), but UBoot checks for specific hardware to make people buy an expensive computer to run it on.
 

Offline AmigaBruno

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 04:27:00 PM »
Quote from: spirantho;734401
There's no X in AmigaOS.... I'm not sure what you were seeing but it wasn't X.
AmigaOS 4 is AmigaOS, not a UNIX of any kind (same as AROS)

The name of it is AmiCygnix. It's specially created for AmigaOS, but is an X Windows server. Android is based on Linux, but without an X Windows server.

To sum up, the original Amiga idea was UNIX + Atari 8 bit + fun & games + 16/32 bit hardware = Amiga.
 

Offline AmigaBruno

Re: Is AROS and AmigaOS 4.1 the samething?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 04:32:22 PM »
Quote from: nicholas;734402
You need to burn the Icaros image to a disc or USB drive then boot your laptop from it.

You've been running it in an interpreted PC emulator on top of Windows that's why it was so slow.  If you want to run it on Windows at near native speed you need to install virtual box or buy VMware/Parallels.

I downloaded it, burnt it onto DVD, then tried to boot from it, but it wouldn't boot. I then booted into Windows and clicked on the DVD icon, but it only wanted to try and burn the image onto another DVD or CD. I found some files under a directory called Live. There was a README file and two BAT files for 32bit and 64bit versions of Windoze. Only clicking on the 32bit BAT files gets the DVD to start up AROS Icaros Desktop.