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Re: [Vampire] OS3.x VS AROS
« on: February 23, 2016, 06:08:04 PM »
I dont understand the need to bundle a KS with the Vampire.
Just let the user load whatever he/she wants.

Most people these days dont use a "clean" KS3.1 anyway.
 

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Re: [Vampire] OS3.x VS AROS
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2016, 09:08:07 PM »
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This is about much more than bundling a kickstart with the vampire. It is providing an extensible environment within which the vampire can grow and blossom.


Yes, but bundling it together with no other options, makes me have to participate in financing the KS license.
I already bought it more than once, dont feel like doing it again.

Also, I'd like to continue using my patched/enhanced KS.

Quote from: Thomas Richter;804489
For example, the vamire requires in the long run a stable graphics system to offer true color output. As soon as it gets more registers, it needs a new context switch in exec. As soon as there are new hardware units, it would require new datatypes to take advantage of the new features.


No problem. When that time comes, the user can decide if he wants the new features, and then buy the updated KS.

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And this is exactly what needs to resolved and part of the problem. If everybody is using a different operating system, there is no longer a common ground to develop applications upon. There is already an increasingly complex playground of patches and extensions, and this does not exactly facilitate the usage of new hardware as it makes its use unnecessary complex.


Well, in my opinion the users should get the option to buy the product without bundled KS and load their own, knowing that certain features will not be available to them if they do so.
 

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Re: [Vampire] OS3.x VS AROS
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 10:30:14 PM »
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I don't know what you bought or did not. There never was an upgradable license for any kickstart, so if you had 3.0, you were not entitled for a free 3.1 upgrade. If you had 3.1, you were not entitled for a free 3.9 upgrade.

So I don't see why there should be an "upgrade for free".

However, currently the vampire does require a customized kickstart, so yours does not work right away. Furthermore, if more features come, you need a new exec scheduler.


I said nothing about anything "for free", I said leave it to the user to decide.
If specific patches are required for the Vampire, release the patches so the user can apply them to his legally bought KS himself, then load it to the Vampire.
I see no problem with this.

As for me, I legally own KS3.1 and OS3.9 and would like to keep using the OS3.9 KS updates.