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Re: Boot problems on modded a4000
« on: November 07, 2003, 03:25:18 PM »
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- If I switch the machine on with floppy, keyboard and mouse - the cpu fan spins up, a black screen
comes to sight, the Caps Lock light works.


Try pressing a couple of times -for 5/10 secs- the Caps Lock, and notice if the light gets blocked on the on-off state (not changing/modifying its state by repetitive pressing).

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What does the black screen that doesn't go away mean?

Why is there no video display when booting if there's no floppy installed?


What monitor do you have? A standard VGA goes "out of scan range" by default on turning on the AMiGA (until the devs/monitors get loaded).
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Re: Boot problems on modded a4000
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2003, 04:31:58 PM »
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I will try that when I get back home. Currently no internet access there. What does it mean if it gets blocked


That the system is really dead! You might notice certain system-locks when your mouse or everything on screen has freezed, BUT your TCP/IP stack may be functional (ping responce), and the Caps Lock blinks if you press it (typical when you have low mem, chip particularly).

Turning on the amiga with a black screen might be an early fault (can't do the system check  -the normal greys on screen, or the red/green/blue/yellow error codes- ).

-Check the CPU board (that is well seated on the CPU slot).

-Check the ROMS (if they're missing or burnt you get a black screen, same as above -CPU- ).
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Re: Boot problems on modded a4000
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2003, 02:59:28 PM »
Yeap, it's dead!

Caps Lock blocked, no error-codes on boot (even the rom won't check itself), no "early startup menu".

Sorry I don't have a Warp-card (I had a standard A3640). Might be the RAM modules on the card?!. Check some info on this (if it can be started without ram: es. the CSPPC won't boot without 1 pair of simm at least!).

Suspects: (from the least serious damage)
-RAM
-ROM
-CPU card

(from the most highly probable order)
-CPU card (when not fitted well always gives a black non-responsive screen when you turn on the AMiGA).
-ROM (won't do the self-check procedure on boot)
-RAM (see the CSPPC example, I don't know for the Warp card)

The PSU might be also, but in low voltage you wouldn't  have the caps lock ligth blink even for once.
I think it's the 5V for the mobo power, the 12V for the HDs etc. You have nothing to lose if you check the power output with a tester (you said that it's not the original PSU...)
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Re: Boot problems on modded a4000
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2003, 10:03:57 AM »
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What happens is that when I switch on my machine the power LED brightens up after about half a second, the CAPS
lock light works the way it should (no freeze after 10 events) and the floppy starts to tick after some time. If I then insert the
Workbench disk, Workbench loads from the disk. This means that the CPU card and the ROM are working.


Nice, it's perfectly working!

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But - the machine still gives out just a black screen. I've got a video --> scart cable connected to the "RGB port". I've
tested the cable with another machine - so I am certain that it works.


Could have been the monitor definitions (devs:monitors/) to redirect the video-out to the card, but since you don't see any "early-startup-menu", that means you have an RGB out problem.

- Check the pins on the RGB-out plug (AMiGA)

- Check the plug on the mobo side, and the first electronic components between LISA and RGB-out plug (resistors, capacitors, motherboard traces).

If here was a custom chip fault, you could not boot and the CapsLock is blocked with no floppy ticks.
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Re: Boot problems on modded a4000
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2003, 06:00:16 PM »
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Can I test resistors, motherboard traces and capacitors with a multimeter?


Well, a simple inspection firstly will do (note any strangely-blacked component, disrupted traces etc.)

As for the tester, any electronic component should be tested by itself not in a circuity. That means much work, done by a specialist....

A simple thing to do is to test only suspected faulty:

- resistors (should give infinite resistance if burnt), if inplace may give any value (altered by the circuity).

- capacitors (should give an infinite value in case they're faulty), if normal they peak a 0 Ohm resistance that increases to infinite in short time.

- mobo traces should give 0 Ohm values if tested between 2 direct points (not any resistor/capacitor/IC between the tester leads).


Check the RGB-out plug and its pins to the mobo first, and then move proximaly to the mobo components


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