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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« on: May 06, 2018, 07:25:37 PM »
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The fast access to Voodoo graphics memory would be lost with an A4000 accelerator slot unless someone also built a GREX like replacement PCI busboard.


At which point (PPC-CPU+PCI+access2AmigaMobo) you'd be back at what the Escena-A1 was supposed to be.


Well that was a pointless brainfart 20 years ago........
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2018, 10:01:52 AM »
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At that point, the stand alone AmigaOne or Pegasos makes as much sense.

An A1/Pegasos makes "much sense" the moment you replaced all things Amiga with much more powerful components from 15 years later making the Axx00 an glorified keyboard controller.
(same reason I don't get all the buzz about the Vampire)


Now Phase5PPC+Permedia/PCI does already fall into that category but is acceptable due to being released in a different time.


Bout having a Sonnet-PPC in an MorphOS-NG running x86-64, just start MorphOS3.x in QEMU and be done with it.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2018, 11:45:57 AM »
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I'd love to but the MorphOS Team aren't exactly helpful to the QEMU guys in getting it running.

I wasn't implying to run a QEMUed MorphOS under Win/Linux/OSX but using as legacy support in case of an x86-64 native MorphOS-NG.

It's also no secret that at least one developer had MorphOS running in QEMU years ago, but it was decided to not support such things.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2018, 02:51:12 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;839047
I kind of get Vampire, until you reach Vampire4, where attachment to legacy hardware is redundant as all functionality now resides in the FPGA and it can exist as a stand alone system.


Current Vampire is like getting an Intel i7 onto a board that still has ISA-slots so you can get an CGA and AdLib card into it..........
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2018, 10:09:14 PM »
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i7? More like Pentium MMX 120 or so.


Thats not the point.....


..... but still noone sane would pair a Pentium with those cards.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2018, 10:12:57 PM »
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Oh ... are you one of those people that thinks the WiiU is the Wii with a new controller?


HW wise (and if only one core is used) the WiiU is a silent upgrade MacMini with a fixed (small) SSD size.

Both MorphOS and OS4 (well kinda) have already been ported to those and there isn't a real shortage of that particular HW.

As cool as it might seem, pointless waste of resources.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2018, 05:51:10 PM »
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...much like mona very little work would be required.  


no idea how much work went into moana, but it was still 100s of hour away from being a release candidate.

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"drivers" amount to calling the libraries that already exist within the machine's rom.

rotflmao!!!!!
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2018, 09:16:07 PM »
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http://wiibrew.org/wiki/IOS



And at which point does that autotranslate to AmigaDOS compatible filesystems, a graphics subsystem that take calls designed graphics or cybergraphics.library?

Is there an USB stack and does it translate KBD and mouse to something input.device/intuition could understand?


Nah, all it does is what other HW provide with OpenFirmware,UBoot,EFI,etc etc

And you still haven answered why it would be such a good idea if the HW offers no real advantage over already supported and easily available G4 MacMini.
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2018, 02:09:24 PM »
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I wasn't really thinking about OS4, Benny. And I haven't used AmigaForevdr in awhile, but I'm sure it runs OS4 better at this point then anything that has been done thus far with QEMU.


AmigaForever (aka UAE) does PPC support by utilizing QEMU...... ;)
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Re: Sonnet crescendo 7200 and OS4.1
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2018, 04:00:54 PM »
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I'm buying a white WiiU as soon as I finish paying off my tuition charges for this Spring.



You are aware that white ones only have 8GB internal storage compared to the 32GB of the black "deluxe" version?

No idea wether that matters for Linux or if it runs 100% from SD card anyways.
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