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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« on: March 22, 2011, 12:09:47 PM »
Quote from: AmigaNG;623709

How many other computers features a Xmos chip, Xorro Expansion Slot, and a Dual Core PA6T-1682M PPC 64Bit 2Ghz processor?



So if the A1000 (the real one) had been bog-standard IBM-AT-clone with an 68000 in the place where one would expect the 80286 and some obscure IO-chip clued to it, it would have triggered the same reactions like the A1000 with it's outstanding GFX, sound an OS had ?

It say the actual reaction would be lukewarm at best.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2011, 03:50:36 PM »
@iggy


A 68k based "AT" might have had some impact in specialized fields, but overally it would've been a complete failure (not compatible with any SW, slower than a 80286 without offering any real benefits).

Sure in the end the intregrated GFX and sound helped the demise of the Amiga but in 1985-90 it was exactly what set it apart from the competion.

Comparing the X1000 to the Peg2 on bare specs is more than a bit unfair when you ignore the fact that there are 6 years (and counting) between the release-dates. Back than a G4 at 1GHz was closer to mainstream specs than that P6T is today. Add the pricing to the equation and it should become crystal clear that the Peg2 was a much more sensible offer back than the the X1000 will be in 2011(?).

Dual-Core under OS4 is just as interesting as dual-core on my ARESOne under AROS (read it's pointless) except that the later will eat the former for lunch if we get down to raw performance.

The number of P6Ts might be limited but so is the number of people prepared to spend 2000Euro (or more) for an obscure piece of HW based on a CPU moothballed 5 years ago.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 05:26:25 PM »
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Mothballed? No the PA6T was discontinued before it had a chance to find much of a market.


Dunno bout you, but I think you just perfectly described what is meant by the term "mothballed".

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And while I understand your bias (as an ARESOne owner)


*lol* .........
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4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: X1000 Nemo Rev. 2 Motherboard in Production
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2011, 02:16:18 PM »
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What do you think of my idea for a project that could make good use of Xena/Xorro:
steam operated model steam locomotive in H0 scale


If (and I mean IF) that actually is a good use for an XMOS chip it also is a perfect example of why the intregration on the mobo makes no sense.

You would have to place your 2000Euro X1000 really close to your H0-set running several non-hotplug wires in between both.

Use an existing XMOS-kit connect it via USB or Ethernet (both provide more than enough throughput for 1 lowres videolink and a bunch of signals) and you will not only reduce the risk of killing your expensive kit, but you might even get away with useing a less expensive one (honestly that were HW like the Efika or the Beagleboard would be optimal).
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else