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Re: What about an A1200 accelerator with built-in USB 2.0?
« on: January 24, 2011, 12:22:25 PM »
@Phipscube

And if I had a dozen hering, I could make a bowl of fish-soup ....

a) there no way to get all that stuff functional on a PCB sized for the A1200-trapdoor slot
b) there is no way you can keep it cool enough or supply enough power to it without serious modifications to the A1200
c) since you've replaced allmost everything why bother with having an A1200-mobo dangling on it's side ?
d) there might be some level of AGA-compability in OS4.x, but it's surely not enough to run those games and apps that make still having classic worthwhile.
e) given it's small size and special need to connect to the A1200 this board would create greater costs both in development and production as the X1000
d) that price would decrease the market to a 2 figure number (at best)
f) such a small production-run will blow pricing completly out of the water


Just a reminder, there is a reason why the new ACA-board are 030-only and that price vs. marketsize. Making it an 060-board would have increased pricing so much that it would be out of the impulse-buy range and as such it wouldn't be cost-effective.
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Re: What about an A1200 accelerator with built-in USB 2.0?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 01:16:47 PM »
@kephren

I was not replying about the orginal proposal (USB-chip on simple 030-card) but to that everything-AND-the-kitchensink crapshot.
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Re: What about an A1200 accelerator with built-in USB 2.0?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 02:58:56 PM »
a) look at the space required by the CPU alone on the X1000
b) you may want to back up that one
c) it's still pointless for most NG-uses and won't be compatible enough for most classic-uses
d) see above
e) there is no way one could just shrink the current X1000 layout to that size, not without replacing most of the parts with varieties used in laptops and going seriously multilayered on the board (which adds even more design problems). So yes it would be a seperate design and production is gonna be costly
f) we would atleast be talking about inflation corrected prices for the orginal PPC-cards back in 1997 .... read >3000Euro IF the boards would be produced in a similar amount. But given that the market shrank by atleast 90% in the past 13 years we could easily be talking about 10000 or more.

And yes a crapshot remains a crapshot and deserves to be called a crapshot.
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Re: What about an A1200 accelerator with built-in USB 2.0?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 03:01:30 PM »
Quote from: Piru;608652



I very much doubt your price quotes.


Yeah allmost missed that one were he wants to tell us that a miniturized version of the 1500Euro Xena-board could be sold for 500 Euro or less.....
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Re: What about an A1200 accelerator with built-in USB 2.0?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 09:25:12 PM »
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Ok, now your starting to amuse the hell out of me. 1500 Euro gets you a rather hefty rebranded PC case with an ATX PSU, HDD, DVD Drive, Mainboard, GFX card Sound card keyboard etc...


Nope that would be more like 2000+ for the whole shebang...

1500 will just buy you a motherboard (which won't be available seperatly unless your part of that betatester-prepay-scheme).
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