New Executive Update

[Kronos]

/me is waiting for Ben Hermans to start ranting
about that (almost anual) pre-payment-scheme.

Party on  :-P

[Kronos]

Im sorry I dont get you?

Is it really so hard  :-o

Whenever Ben was loosing an argument on ann.lu in a Pegasos-related-thread
he did start ranting about the fact that so many people lost money in th Phase5-
preorder/bancrupsy and how bad pre-payments were. He even called those
people stupid (or was it idiots ?).

Now AInc is offering the second pre-payment for the same  products with an
uncertain release-date. These product are even not produced (or financed)
by AInc. but by Eyetech(MAI) and Hyperion.

Thats why I expect our honest, neutral, fair and nice friend Ben to do some
of his typical commenting on this  ;-)

[Kronos]

Oh come on now Kronos! You and I both know VERY well that a $50 deposit is *ALOT* different than throwing $1200USD++++ at a preorder.

It's still a damn pre-payment ! And AInc. are still not investing one
single $ into the development of A1/OS4....

I can drink $50 in a bar in a few hours!

And someone like that is allowed to have kids  :-o

God bless America  :roll:

[Kronos]

They pretty clearly, unambiguously, and definitively said that the AmigaONE is not a TeronCX.

Just like they said that the "Escena_ONE" was allmost ready,
that the dev-boards (all of them) would be shipped in April, that they have them but they would need to "fix the rom", that
they have them (all of them) but just have to adapt Linux before, and
that they have borrowed Apple's CPU-socket.

Reality:
The A1 is a (slightly) modified TeronCX and will be produced (and yes
I mean "will be" and not "has") by a yet unknown company. The A1-XE
will be a slightly modified version if the TeronPX, which (suprise suprise)
uses a megarray CPU-socket, just like Apple does.

[Kronos]

$5Million isnt enough?

They paid that for the name and the (developer) community, but weren't
interested in the OS itself, actually the tried allmost every possible trick to
kill it in 2000.
They changed their mind in 2001 (good), but still haven't added one single
line of code to the project or payed for any actual development.

Thanks for the insults.

Be my guest  :-D

[Kronos]

OK. And where are you getting your "facts"

Even Alan addmitted that it has been developed by the same persons
that did the TeronCX, and given the limited time and money frameset it's
absolut impossible to create a completly new design.

If it does the job of running OS4 nicely, surely thats what matters?

If it really does (doubt it) ? No problem at all, but I do have a problem with
the hot-air Alan is talking just to avoid the saying the truth. Which is that
Eyetech is just a reseller and not capable to get such a big project off
the ground without relying on others.

But that was not the point.
The Point was that AInc. doesn't take any finicial risk in the A1/OS4 operation,
but still there are the ones who are asking for a pre-payment...

[Kronos]

@Herewegoagain

Didn't Ben always say that OS4 was  a pure Hyperion-thing ?
And the A1 a pure Eytechech-one ?

I don't have a problem with AInc. "outsourcing" this, but I don't think it
is a good idea to take money in advance for products developed by
someelse. If they had said that they money would be passed over to Hyperion/
Eyetech to help them in getting things finished faster it would have made some
sense, but in the way it sounds to me now it's just another desperate
"we need money now" -cry just like the Party-Pack last year.

@Red
"-abuse-"

 :-o  :-o  :-o

Did you really see this as an abuse ?
I found the idea of labelling my Krusty_the_Klingon_insult_comedy
as something typical german quite amuseing..

[Kronos]

@Herwegoagain

This is how I understand it:

You pay $50 to AInc.
AInc. keeps that money (and maybe spends it on the DE).
The A1 is released.
You buy a A1.
You send the recipt to AInc.
AInc. sends you a cheque about $50.

And now what happens if AInc. go bankrupt before the A1-release ?

[Kronos]

If you notice, Alnc has multiple revenue stream to minimize this risk...

AInc has a revenue ? With what product ?
The game-pack ? The SDK ? The fantastic Sharp-deal ?

Their first income will probraly be Amithlon_2.0 which seems
to be "their" only real product that actually has a market.

[Kronos]

Hyperion have already said numerious times that there was code already there to build on that Amiga Inc had created before they couldnt pay their contractors

When  I asked Ben on a IRC-chat early this year about H&P and
there involvement in OS4 he replied wit something in the line of
"they are doing their share". Somehow that doesn't fit in with facts that
we know now.

The only things that have been done before Hyperion took over was 3rd-
party stuff like RoadShow.

And yes one of the first AInc told everyone in 2000 was that AmigaOS
was dead. And yes H&P wanted to do (minimal) PPC version of 3.9, but
weren't allowed back than.