Pre-assembled Minimigs - Cmonnnnn!

[Kronos]

@Downix

Ever heard the terms "new world Mac" and "old world Mac" ? ;-)

[Kronos]

@little

The Mac-clones came during the early PPC-days, the only 68k-clones I'm aware of would be things like Emplant or Shapeshifter :-o

What has the abilty to run another OS has to do with the question wether Kickstart is an OS or an BIOS ??

You know, one could start linux from Workbench (thats how I did it when I tried 68k-linux for the only time).

Kickstart is the AmigaOS, just not all of it.

Exec, Intuition,GFX and DOS are in ROM, and even started before anything is loaded from disk (hint: the basic shell/cli that appears after booting an empty disk is NOT part of the boot-block).



Oh, and that book was written years after Kernie&Ritchie developed and documented C, so what every you were trying to argue here, you failed
 :-D

[Kronos]

So there were (inofficial) 68k-Mac-clones ... so what ? Apple wasn't "killing" them, it was the PPC-cloes (UMAX for example) they killed back then.

Sure you don't need Windows to run Linux, but what has that to do with the price of the fish ?? Kickstart is AmigaOS, all you need to start basic apps (as long as they don't need libs found on the WB disks), and thats what defines an OS.

Try starting an MS-DOS-EXE directly from BIOS and you'll see the difference.

To put is simple, there is NO BIOS in Amigas, just as there was no BIOS in the C64 (here it was the BASIC-interpreter acting as OS/bootloader), that does offcourse not mean that one can't use Kickstart as some sort of BIOS.

And your book-example was just even more insane then the one about the hardware-reference.