Do we have AMIGA OS anymore?

[IonDeluxe]

@SHADES

Nothing has really changed. AOS4 is still being derived from earlier 68k versions, it is still Amiga.

KMOS bought the name, the rights and everything related to Amiga OS from Amiga Inc. so it is no different to when escom or gateway or Amiga Inc bought it.At any time they could have changed the name to : Happy pink bunnies with attitude os" if they had so desired.

Why is it such a big deal that Kmos now own it and Amiga Inc does not?

In some ways I think it is better as now the A1 and OS4 are now distanced from alot of the trouble that surrounds Amiga Inc.

[IonDeluxe]

All of this is banannas over nothing.
Amiga as it has been, has been bought and sold many many times since it began, any one of those companies could have turned amiga into something else.In fact, AMiga Inc has turned Amiga into something very different from what it used to be.Compare an A1 to an amiga 500 for instance.

Remember also that Amiga Inc used to be call Amino.

I think what is freaking SHADES out is that KMOS did not buy the entire company and is worries that it will just use what it bought as "spare parts" for something else.

That seems illogical to me as Linux and other OS's are more advanced and a different design so there is little value in doing so IMO.Forcing everyone to change all thier system software for a free os would likely be financial foolishness.

KMOS, it seems, has given assureances it will continue development of the Amiga platform, so there is no need to worry about it.

[IonDeluxe]

But what is the use of the OS to them, whilst the market is still dwindling? How long are they likely to continue to develop for a platform that is beginning to fragment more each day? Despite their high reserves of cash, they still have responsibilities to their shareholders to give a good return on each dime/penny that they spend. Now that AInc have disposed of the OS, what incentive is there for them to continue developing any new & modern hardware?

If KMOS choose to develop a new OS which runs on the IBM compatible PC's the AOS is likely to become another OS2 casulty of the Windows domination.

Then what would have been the point of buying it in the first place?It does not make financial sense.

Settop boxes, embedded systems, kiosks etc. The OS has a small footprint, (even the PPC version) they would own it and they can enhance it to fit their needs. Given Garry's background thats much more likely use for an OS then an OS for an expensive (ie A1) computer. However I still stand by my thought that this chapter in amiga history will be known in the future as Operation: Shell Game.

That is already the plan, by selling the hardware to customers who want these systems then the cost of production f boards goes down...DUH. Its all tied in.

WHat has changed from the past to now ? nothing, absolutely nothing in regards to what any owner of the OS could have done at ANY time.

This is much ado about nothing

[IonDeluxe]

First of all you are completely wrong.

First of all YOU are completely wrong.
Show me 1 piece of proof that eyetech are swindling the consumers and getting "Fat"
they have a price, you pay it or dont, thats up to you, but it is certainly no base to start implying misconduct by Eyetech.

While i cannot PROVE that the price will reduce, its a good bet that once the orders for boards go from 100 lot batches to 1000 lot batches the price will drop considereably.

Furthermore as EYEtech are responsible for the design, they are not going to cripple thier board which will prevent them from using it for other customers just to supply KMOS with a set top box.
KMOS wont stop development or crimp development if Eyetech is selling thier boards in volume to industrial companies as is thier publicized plan, and has been their plan for some time.It would be foolish to do so as it would mean less sales of thier OS.

It is my view that an expanded set top box is the way things are going to go. With HDTV and other digital t.v. solutions, cable tv, MP3, dvd's, normal music, CD's, recording, radio, home entertainment(computer games) all being seperate pieces of equipment, a set top box combining all these functions, and even serving them to the rest of the household as well as providing a home gateway to the internet and a powerful home PC to-boot, is going to absolutely kick ass. I am already seeing moves in this direct direction and it is only a matter of time before it happens. If KMOS can position the Amiga with AOS4 in this market well enough, we will be home free.

I am so sick of people just tearing things down without even considering the possibility that something might actually be good.