Genesi selects IBM PowerPC for Performance-intensive Pegasos Release

[IonDeluxe]

Trialed and tested by over 1000 users in 34 countries

Correct me if I am wron but there were only 6-700 Pegasos produced.The pegasos II has been available for order for only a little over a month so that cannot add to this particular group.

This is just crap, if you are going to do this kind of advertising, make it truthful, not exageration hype and half-truths.

[IonDeluxe]

@Gary_C

even if you include the pagaos II, you are maybe hitting the 1000 mark of machines produced, but that hardly meets "trialled and tested"
In any case he is talking Pagasos, not Pegasos II or Pegasos line and/or product group.
At best it is exaggeration and inaccurate statements at worst it is blatant lies.I dont care if it is not a "deposition" or not, it IS advertising, a public statement and as such must be accurate and concise.

Quite frankly this continuing misleading conduct by BBRV/Genesi should not be tolerated! As a small business breaking into the market one would expect them to ensure there is absolutely no room for doubt and that thier integrity is beyond reproach.If it by design or mistake it basicly boils down to lies, and I am astounded why people put up with it.

[IonDeluxe]

OMFG somebody dared to make a spelling mistake! Quick alert the world defense forces to this serious threat! Sheesh, get a life.

I did not "interpret" anything.
By your own words they MAY have sold 1000 boards.
Yet BBRV says that over 1000 have been trialled and tested.You say they have gone mainly to developers, BBRV say they have been supporting the hobbyist community.
Something said, something stated which is not true is a lie, be it intentional or otherwise.Hence such statements in the before mentioned press release are lies.Furthurmore either you or bbrv are lying as well as your statements are in conflict.
Considering you have never intentionally spoke mis truth and also considering the track record of bbrv i will assume bbrv is lying some more making that entire section of the press statement little more than wishful fabrication.

[IonDeluxe]

@wayne
as usual your "facts" are a little on the cream cheese side of hard.I can state unequivocably that there has actually been fewer than 200 sold.Does not make it true does it.
Where I *might* believe 1000 pegasos I and pegasos II machinrs have been produced combined, I doubt that figure is too close to how many have actually been sold.Yet that is neither here nor there.
The fact remains, this board has been available for order for little over a month.(The Pegasos II board) and bu the time you get those boards to customers, then they put it together and THEN  "trial and test" the thing, it leave a bit to be desired for anything approaching acceptable "rigorous testing" you could barely make a premliminary power consumtion test in that time. THEN you have to assume every customer that has recieved one of these boards has "tested and trialled' them. By this I mean a formal test and trial procedures with results recorded and so on.
Sorry has not happened.
Community support? I never mentioned anything about community support.Also please define what you consider is "This community"
I agree, you guys have spent alot of time and effort in this community, "there is no Mai with out April" "Gary Hare as CEO" and a courtcase I believe. Thats real constructive stuff, and just the tip of it.

FInally, I never said impled or inferred that a hobbyist is not a developer, if you really wanna get pedantic you could say that everyone that uses a computer is a "developer" as everyone that uses a computer is developing something.

Now finally, I never said anything about community support and my entire comment is simply that the press statement in question was, and still is at best exageration, and at worst a further attempt to mislead the public with misinformation in the same way it so often has done in the past.This boils down to its just more lies and I dont understand why the community puts up with them.

[IonDeluxe]

Well, you are doing a great job for Genesi!
Shows once again the integrity of Genesi that it's employees and even the guy (according to his previous signature) responsible for web presence, has to go around insulting and name calling people.

Great job, I am sure this is just the image your employers want.