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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: New CyberGraphX v4 version available
« on: July 17, 2015, 07:03:26 PM »
Great work!  :banana:
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: New CyberGraphX v4 version available
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2015, 05:04:42 PM »
Reading between the lines, @itix says "I remember this bug. Long ago".  That sounds to me like this bug has existed for years, possibly even decades, during which the original author could have addressed it.  If they cared about the Amiga, at all...  :(

When is the last time an official release came out, anyway?  phase5.a1k.org says 2005.  The official website cybergraphx.de is offline.  Aminet has an update from 2008.  Does development on this application continue, outside of what hobbyists and enthusiasts like Cosmos push forward?  'cause 7+ years with no release sounds like abandonware, to me...
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: New CyberGraphX v4 version available
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2015, 05:29:03 PM »
Quote from: utri007;792615
CGX v5 is part of MorphOS

#Facepalm.  That helps classic users, how?
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: New CyberGraphX v4 version available
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2015, 07:03:04 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;792620
Maybe it has been abandoned. However, wouldn't it be much nicer to hear this statement from the author that (apparently) abandoned the project? And then post that answer here?

That sounds very reasonable and all, I just don't see the world working in that way.  While we're at it, can we get Holger Kruse to post up publicly that he's abandoned Miami?  Stefan Stuntz to stop skiing for a moment to come to Amiga.org and post that he's abandoned MUI?  Etc.  It seems to me, and granted this is just my experience and all, but when a person abandons something, they don't come out and make some grand statement that we can all reference later.  Usually they just walk away.  Sometimes they die, or whatever.  And occasionally, very occasionally, they're kind enough to release all their code to Aminet for the world.  But that's pretty rare.  :(

I don't even use CGX.  I don't care and have no dog in this fight.  I found P96 works much better for my purposes.  But if I was a classic user running CGX and hadn't seen an update in 7+ years, I'd be glad as he** for someone like Cosmos to come along and release a bugfix version.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2015, 07:06:01 PM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: New CyberGraphX v4 version available
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2015, 12:39:24 AM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;792637
Do you have reasons to work with or on their files, and re-publish the binaries? I believe Stefan is alive and well, so if you want to ask him a question on MUI, I doubt he'll refuse to answer if you ask politely. I know nothing about the whereabouts of Holger, but again, just being too lazy to ask does not mean that you get rights on his programs.   Maybe they don't make statements when they go, but why does that stop you asking?

Aside from a little Commodore 64 BASIC and some VB in college, I'm not a coder, so no, I'd have no reason to work on or re-publish their binaries.  I was just using them as examples.

Stefan, for example, from multiple forum searches I've found many posts from people who've already tried to contact him.  Laugh at me all you want, but when I found this website this past May I went ahead and sent him the Paypal registration fee.  When I was a broke teenager I pirated the heck out of his software.  Now it just felt right to "make up for that", in a way, by registering.  I got no response at all, not even a "hey, thanks for the money".  Which is kind of a shame, but I'm still glad I sent it, in a "doing the right thing" kind of way.

Around the same time I registered the WarpDT datatypes and a few other Amiga software packages that I've used over the years.  Again, just trying to do the right thing.  Others did write me back, which kind of warmed my heart to know they appreciated the gesture.

Holger, on the other hand, I believe he "flipped the collective bird" to the entire Amiga community some years ago, and dropped off the map.  No longer accepting registrations or even willing to discuss his Miami software, assuming you could even track down his contact info.  Which is a damned shame, because I would gladly put money in his hands today to see that software continued to be developed.

But I guess for some people, pride is more important than money.  I don't know, just hypothesizing.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Unofficial CyberGraphX v4 bug fixes
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2015, 12:14:17 AM »
Quote from: stefcep2;792715
in what definition is the software being "maintained"?

If he "maintains" the software as well as he "maintains" his website:
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Unofficial CyberGraphX v4 bug fixes
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2015, 03:51:13 AM »
Quote from: Trev;792720
Did Piru ever get permission to patch Exec, or do we conveniently ignore the transgressions of our more popular and prolific community members? ;-) (Does he still post here? I haven't been on much in the last four years....)

EDIT: But yeah, @Cosmos should have contacted the original author. I for one stopped fiddling with Amiga software because it stopped being fun. When I reported issues with e.g. the OS 4 SDK ages ago, they were ignored. :-( I suppose I should unload my kit. What does a Blizzard 1260 with SCSI adapter go for these days?

I think he ragequit a few years ago, too.  Like most folks do when they get fed up with the bickering and trolling, lol.  ;)

Here you go:  http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=702149&postcount=8

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