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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga 4000 revD?
« on: May 05, 2015, 02:07:00 AM »
If it is the CR version, a 68EC030 soldered to the motherboard?

I assume you saw this already:  http://amiga.resource.cx/mod/a4000.html
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga 4000 revD?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2015, 08:28:35 PM »
If it were me, I'd start by looking right here:

I think the first spot is for the 68030 oscillator, and the second is for an optional FPU oscillator (which could be clocked independently).  Neither of which you appear to have, hence why no oscillators, either.

Disclaimer:  I found this information on Google.  :lol:
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga 4000 revD?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2015, 08:44:45 PM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;789416
So, how does that effect the use of this if I put the A3640 in? Will it run normally as a video toaster system?

I don't know, how well will a computer run without a processor in it?  :lol:

Hint: I think it will run a lot better with the A3640 (or some other processor card) installed.  :)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga 4000 revD?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2015, 08:47:32 PM »
Amiga.resource.cx has a picture of a fully populated Rev. D CR board on it:

http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/photo2.pl?id=a4000&pg=1&res=hi&lang=en

Obviously yours, lacking the motherboard processor, will not work at all without the A3640 installed.  ;)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga 4000 revD?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2015, 08:54:32 PM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;789419
Ok, but I have the a3640 so all is good right? Not having the oscillator won't make a difference if I have the 3640 installed

Correct.  The empty space on yours for a 50MHz oscillator would be to drive the 68030 processor, which yours also doesn't have.  And the other empty oscillator space would be to drive the 68882 FPU.  Remember, Commodore was cheap and did a lot of weird things back in the day.  So your MB has the space for these components, but no actual components installed.  It was most likely sold with the A3640 already installed, so why bother including them?  You could probably add them, but not really any point in that, since even the A3640 will give you much better performance than having a 68030 on the motherboard.  ;)

Edit:  If it weren't already obvious, the A3640 appears to include it's own oscillator:  http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/media/download_photos/a3640_2_big.jpg
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: Amiga 4000 revD?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2015, 12:55:36 AM »
Quote from: tonyvdb;789426
Just curious, is there issues with the a3640 version 3.1 as that is what it came with? I know some had issues with caps or something being installed backwards?

There are various notes about the revisions here, and in many other places on the web:

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=250

It's a well-documented board.  Honestly if it were me, and not knowing anything about the history of your particular A3640, I'd send it off to a reputable tech for inspection and cap replacement "just to be sure" before I put it into day-to-day use.

But that's just me, and I might be a little over-cautious about these things.  ;)

After that, if you intend to stick with the A3640 (and not mortgage your house to be able to afford a PPC board), do something fun like throw a Quaddoubler on there.  :)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
 Amiga videos and other misc. stuff at https://www.youtube.com/CompTechMike/videos