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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #14 from previous page: February 10, 2015, 07:52:35 PM »
Quote from: kolla;783549
Niding said "I think the majority of the posters here would be more than happy to have their A1200 upgraded to 060 and 64 megs." which may very well be true, but I'm not one of them.

Then go away so @biggun can talk about his new card.
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2015, 09:33:43 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;783574
I didn't need a 1.25 GB HDD for my A1200 in 1994 but I still went for it. You always find a use for more resource.

Incidentally, that drive still works 21 years later :)

Fantastic!  What's the make & model of that puppy?  :D
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2015, 10:29:25 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;783578
Seagate Medalist, slimline 3.5 inch, "fast ATA", or vanilla IDE as it is otherwise known ;)

Nice!  Yeah, Seagate and Quantum, always seemed to have pretty good luck with those two brands.  I'm still stinging from a 500GB WD drive that I had to send in to a "clean room" recovery, after it crashed on my sister after only a year, taking with it all her European vacation pictures.  $600 for that recovery job, I got her an external backup drive the following Christmas!!  :laugh1:

Now I'm jealous of your Bvision resolutions, too.  Can't get that on my Spectrum!  ;)
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2015, 03:20:14 AM »
Quote from: wawrzon;783596
@kolla
sorry i dont seem to find the post i was sure to be referring before, still tcl orthodox style of posting may make it over the top, and your discussion on 16/32 bit issue doesnt actually h3lp it. i understand that you might take your issue with less technically skilled, but there is a ladder to climb for everybody.
@wawrzon - I appreciate your calm and balanced approach to this discussion.  When I see such obvious absurdity related to a subject I'm fairly passionate about, I tend to respond with flip sarcasm and over-exaggeration.  However I take offense to the line "with less technically skilled".  I'm sure everyone on this forum has their own levels of technical proficiency.  I can't judge yours, you can't judge mine, etc.

Now on the discussion, so far on this thread we have seen tcl and kolla make statements that "The A600/68000 architecture is fully 32-bit, is only 32-bit, and will only ever be 32-bit".  That it "can address a full 4GB of RAM".  That Ibrowse and most other common Amiga productivity apps "require 2GB of memory".  They've called OP "silly" for only including 64MB of memory in his A600 accelerator, completely ignoring that their designs are based on a well-defined cost/benefit analysis.  They've called others "fools" and "dumbasses" for disagreeing with their statements, despite not offering a shred of documentary evidence to the contrary.

I'm not too old to learn.  If I'm wrong, prove me wrong.  Post a link to a whitepaper, or to the manual of Ibrowse showing where it says it "requires 2GB of memory".  Surely that shouldn't be too hard to dig up, right?  So far I have posted links and photos of technical documentation from Motorola/Freescale, Wikipedia, CPU-World, and even Commodore, backing up that the A500/A600-era 68000 architecture was considered 16/32-bit, even at that time.  They've also seen OP post that he can easily enable 64-bit execution in their new FPGA cores (which is awesome and something I'd love to hear more about!).  So far all they've posted has been opinion and conjecture.

This is a dumb argument and I have no dog in this fight, so I'll just close with a quote from one of my favorite movies, Interstellar:

"Alright Murph, you wanna talk science?
Don't just tell me that you're afraid of some ghost. No, you gotta go further.
You have to record the facts, analyze...
...get to the how and the why and present your conclusions. Deal?"
"Deal. -All right!"


#posted from my A2000 with 24MB of memory, and Ibrowse.  :D
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 03:23:55 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2015, 08:52:27 PM »
Quote from: danbeaver;783870
Hmm, I guess "Cool Demo" no longer applies to this thread...

At least it's not just full of trolling anymore. ;)  This is some pretty interesting stuff, most of it over my head though!  :lol:
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2015, 11:22:02 PM »
Quote from: Hattig;783911
The A600 is a 32-bit computer (native register size) with 24-bit addressing (16MB), and a 16-bit ALU and data bus.

Watch that heresy, someone might come along and call you a dumbass for it!  :lol:
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2015, 11:46:16 PM »
Quote from: kolla;783922
then neither CD32 nor A1200 are fully 32bit either. Which was exactly the point

Which was exactly *my* point.  Thankyouverymuch for finally drinking the Kool-Aid.

Sincerely,
Jim Jones

;)
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2015, 08:26:37 PM »
Quote from: kipper2k;784453
you say that as though it is your god given right to have it, I can give you a link so you can find some literature so you can start your own research...

https://www.google.com

I think it is awesome that there is still even development for the Amiga so support them

LOL.  Well played, @kipper2k.  And might I say, it's lovely having you on our forums here, now.  That's some great hardware you produce, don't let any of these naysayers drag you down!  :hammer:
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2015, 09:26:32 PM »
Quote from: ElPolloDiabl;784620
sell in great numbers

You mean sell in "great numbers", right?  :lol:
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2015, 07:49:03 PM »
Quote from: ppcamiga1;785238
kleinegun where is my natami?

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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2015, 11:14:32 PM »
Sometimes people make moderating decisions too easy.  ;)

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