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Offline SACC-guy

Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;832240
Personally I wouldn't spend money on any system with only an i3, but I'm sure it's plenty of power to run Amiga stuff. ;)
@Mike

There were three A.L.I.C.E. models.. i3, i5 and i7.
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: Unboxing A.L.I.C.E. (A Laptop Incorporating a Classic Experience)
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2017, 04:10:57 PM »
At his talk at the banquet..
Ken said first...anyone can do this (build an ALICE)
It would take time (lots) and effort and not just the laptop, but the licenses for..
Windows and AmigaOS 4.1 and the Enhancer Pack. Plus Amiga Forever and AmiKit and of course getting a working Linux setup.

I watched them setup a machine... it takes lots of time even for them who have the skills and have done it before!!!

The ALICE also comes with a backup system to restore all this should Windows try to over write during updates.

So... yes it's money and time!

I think it's better for ME to let them to do it!
« Last Edit: October 27, 2017, 04:13:39 PM by SACC-guy »
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: Unboxing A.L.I.C.E. (A Laptop Incorporating a Classic Experience)
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2017, 10:16:17 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;832292
i have set up amiga emulation on every system i use, inclusive the laptop im currently posting from. it isnt complicated at all. and it is free, just take winuae for windows and fs-use for linux. i even tend to use fs-uae under a linux vr to have direct access to my development builds from the emulation.

also setting up the software should be no brainer. you can copy your working setup over, just watch for things like the correct cpu libs in case of 040/060. as i usually use aros anyway, i literally do not have any problem to set up amiga anywhere. i just decompress aros iso to a directory that is used as system drive by uae, edit one or two lines of scripts, and fire it up, optionally adjusting few settings.
I still stand by my statement.. for me this is a good idea

As I am less gifted than you.

Maybe you should write up a real step by step on how to do this as you described.
With the "scripts" completely written out.

Just to help us who don't have your knowledge.

Thanks in advance
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: Unboxing A.L.I.C.E. (A Laptop Incorporating a Classic Experience)
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2017, 02:01:09 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;832326
+1  From what I've seen, it looks and acts absolutely nothing like the "AmigaOS of yore".  :(
You are thinking of Amiga forever. (classic in my eyes)

Amikit has all the eye candy. (NG)
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: Unboxing A.L.I.C.E. (A Laptop Incorporating a Classic Experience)
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2017, 06:15:26 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;832333
i have done it repeatedly for everyone seriously interested. its trivial. to run aros on your amiga computer drcompress nightly to your boot partition and edit the s-s adding at the beginning:
arosbootstrap boot/amiga/aros.hunk.gz

and optionally appending the p96 drivers along with paths in this line just behind, juts like that:
cirrusgd542x.chip picassoii.card

simple. isnt it?
Now I'm really confused...
Why did you say to run on your amiga, I thought we were talking about ALICE (a pc )?
edit the s-s, You mean startup- sequence?
why would I add picasso96, I already have this on my amiga

Again, I thought this was for how to setup a pc laptop to run win/linux/3.1/4.1 maybe AmiKIt or Amiga forever

No, not so simple!

BTW, I don't have a dog
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: Unboxing A.L.I.C.E. (A Laptop Incorporating a Classic Experience)
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2017, 06:46:53 PM »
Quote from: cgutjahr;832334

It would be more useful to give this a good review, so everybody who's about to pay hundreds of dollars for a novelty knows what he's getting into.

The 'rabbit hole' functionality is completely useless for everyday tasks, for example. As somebody already mentioned, it's not ALICE specific - and it was never meant to be used like that. Note that all of the promotional videos are carefully constructed to hide this problem: Most likely, you can only run one Linux application - and it will always be the top window, you can't really switch back to an AmigaOS program while the Linux app is still running. So it's basically "open Firefox, watch a website, close Firefox, run Wordworth". Maybe they found a way around that, but their promotional videos seem to suggest otherwise.

Also, Ken seems to have given a honest run-down of the product at Amiwest - including its drawbacks. Apparently, there's a reason ALICE comes with an emergency boot stick. I didn't see the presentation, but from what little I heard Windows overwrites parts of the harddisk occasionally, making the entire setup unusable. The user then has to rewrite the HD (or the Linux/Amiga parts? no idea) using the emergency boot stick. Not my idea of a "consumer grade product that adds an edge of professionalism and seamlessness", as BozzerBigD put it.
I would like to read your complete review.
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: Unboxing A.L.I.C.E. (A Laptop Incorporating a Classic Experience)
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2017, 09:38:41 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;832365
alright. its a waste of time, go, get your alice laptop.
Thanks,
You could have just said..
I don't wish to share my knowledge with you.

Wait! That's what you said!

Maybe someone else can step up to help?