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Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« on: May 01, 2017, 12:16:03 AM »
Spend the money and get a NEW X5000. (with usb, ethernet, sata)

No bad caps, no shot power supplies, 20 to 30 year old problems!!!
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2017, 07:46:44 AM »
It's a false eco-money..

The so called hoaders have 20 to 30 machines but got them because they were willing to pay for or store them.

People complain about the cost of new systems but Classic Amigas cost just as much when new. I have my reciepts.

The cost of a used system can cost as much and the parts everyone wants can sell

for much more then when those parts were new (060, ppc, PicassoIV, etc)

Even buying newer working parts like ethernet cards or usb cards, adds expense.

Don't even start me on the monitors and INdivision.


At Amiwest AmigaDave talked me to trying MorphOS, he even gave me a cd. I had an mac g4 that was compatible.

But it wasn't. I had to buy a used Radeon card. Then the power supply died. Don't forget used Macs for MorphOS

even if you are lucky to get a "great/free" deal are also 20 years old and will need re-caping etc.


AROS is cheap only when you don't factor in you have to have a intel pc and doesn't really work on the cheaper pcs.


People come back looking for cheap only to find no such thing (see ebay final prices) If you get a deal...

Watch for those battery issues and don't forget those caps or a new mouse because the old one is shot!


You can get lucky at the right time and with the right person. I sold a nice 4000D at AmiWest for $100.

Had I posted it ebay and run an auction, it would have sold for several hundreds.

Because amiga has become a "hobby", it's not cheap.


A new AmigaOne X5000 has none of those age issues or auctions prices.

You can pick cheaper new parts if you need. But at least it new.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 08:55:24 AM by SACC-guy »
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 08:42:07 AM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;825180
That's absolute complete and utter nonsense.
I've had AROS running on systems from amd k62's, to pentium3s, athlonxp's, athlon64, athlon64x2, Intel atoms, Intel core2duo, and phenom2, Intel i5s, and now Intel i7.
The i5 system cost me $100aud.

Additionally the hilarious justification that "the original amigas cost just as much new" is nothing more than delusional self justification. Back then ram was very expensive, so were hard drives, so were monitors, etc, etc.
The pricing benchmark has changed. These days you can pick up a machine 10x as powerful as an x5000 for 1/10th of the price.

Nice bit of creative writing there, but seriously why bother? Both you and others know its mostly crap. Never understood why people make up things when they must know others know the truth.
Is it self justification?
Near as I can tell...if you can afford all those systems for testing...you've spent too much yourself. A little ironic. Don't you think?
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 08:44:16 AM by SACC-guy »
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 08:49:27 AM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;825182
I'm not sure you understand the word "Ironic".  :)

Anyway, let it go. We've both said our bit. No need to derail the thread.
The only ironic thing here is you defending AROS because it's cheap.

"Unfortunately only you see can't how transparent and petty it makes you look"

The OP wants to spend $200 but it ain't gonna happen! Unless he's really lucky!

BTW, even the MorphOS guys are going to NEW...
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 08:53:00 AM by SACC-guy »
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2017, 09:05:02 AM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;825184
OK, clearly you don't understand the definition of "ironic". No harm in that, but perhaps stop using words if you're going to misuse them?

Also, I'm not particularly defending anything but the truth. Your post is so full on nonsense that I decided to comment.

And yes, its entirely possible to spend under $200. There's multiple options.

Seriously though, let it go. No-one is interested in reading arguments.
My post is the truth.

A new Amiga is better then all the old hardware which is dying!
A new pc for AROS is part of the cost.

I spent the weekend helping 4 old amigas to help because of cost for my fellow amigans.

Just because you think it overpriced is why you commented.

Another post about your "facts"! Will only once again prove it's a pot shot!
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2017, 09:13:54 AM »
The OP did ask for advice in part three of his post.

My advice, forget old used stuff (even if the g5 is faster...it's old)

BTW, X5000 can run linux and I've been told MorphOS too!

I'm so sick of the bad caps, battery rot and used up old devices.

I  offered the best advise I believe.

BUY NEW! If you want Amiga. At the moment, that's the X5000!

Cheap is not cost effective!
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 09:19:14 AM by SACC-guy »
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2017, 09:30:41 AM »
Quote from: fishy_fiz;825189
@iggy
$50 for i5-760 CPU. $50 for a decent h55 MSI motherboard. Hardly a pos. Performs nicely. USB3, PCI express 3.0. Decent little micro atx machine.

Y'all might want to reel in the paranoia too. I was trying to offer the OP advice based on *his* wants. If you'd bothered to read what I wrote rather than jumping to raise your (irrelevant in the context of this thread) flag you'd have seen I even said that an RPI+amibian might be his best option for what he wants "despite AROS being my preference".
And yes SACC-Dude, my facts are correct. You claimed AROS needs an expensive Intel system to run properly, which is complete crap.

I couldn't care less if people want an X5000 or not. There were no "potshots", I simply tried to respond IN THE CONTEXT OF THE THREAD.

You do in fact care! YOU want to push aros based choices, and
You missed that he want an Amiga! for aprrox $200
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 09:43:49 AM by SACC-guy »
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2017, 09:39:58 AM »
Well, back when I was poor, I wanted a leather jacket. I couldn't even afford the cheapest.
I saved my money, but didn't buy the cheap, I BOUGHT the best. I still have that jacket!

I don't see anyway around the 20/30 year old issues. So why buy them.
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2017, 10:37:28 AM »
Quote from: wawrzon;825195
yes, it seems he wants an amiga, not some ppc amigaone board, which is what you are apparently missing. please, stop trying to insist on newcomers, to throw thousands of dollars away for something, they likely never heard about (and that may not be, what they identify amiga with), just to run amiga software under emulation, as you would have to do on a regular pc.

btw, i have several amigas, still far from dying as it seems. and i can even run aros on them along with genuine software, no additional investments necessary. try that with os4.. sigh..
I too have several Amigas, all working...

as to ppc is not amiga, Oh please, that old fable...
Amiga had the 060/ppc card back in the MorphOS 1.4 days (I still have mine)

MorphOS was setup on ppc.

The only new Amiga has PPC, get over it!
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 10:43:17 AM by SACC-guy »
 

Offline SACC-guy

Re: It's been a long time
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2017, 11:25:34 PM »
YES, where there is an Amigan, there are five (or more) options