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Re: A2000 w/ 060 speed?
« on: August 13, 2012, 01:21:48 AM »
Quote from: blakespot;703192
So, I am wanting to grab an A3000 w/ RTG card. But ... I have an A2000. If I added a Blizzard 060 board to it and a RTG card - either Picasso II or some higher board that supports Zorro II --- how much weaker in performance for RTG tasks would the unit be than an A3000?

Dramatically slower? Or just a bit? Maybe it makes sense to expand the A2000.

Right now I have a 68020 in the A2000, but an 060 would be far faster obv. For WHDload stuff, which I use a lot, the A2000 020 I have now is really no less solid than a bog standard 030 A3000.

Opinions wanted!

Hi i have a Amiga 2000 with 030 and 9 mb ram, i find it quite fast and very good at running whdload games, much much faster than my stock amiga 2000 i have trouble running whdload games on that one...
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D
 

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Re: A2000 w/ 060 speed?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 12:00:36 PM »
Quote from: nscaleworld;703247
In terms of quality, I would stick with the Amiga 2000, with a German-made 060 board and a GVP Spectrum or Picasso II graphics board. As far as the bus speed, there is not that much difference between 24-bit and 32-bit. If you want speed and high resolution graphics, get yourself an AmigaOne. Why mess around with the poorly designed and lower quality Amiga 3000 and 4000 computers. You can get an AmigaOne computer for less money then you would pay for an Amiga 3000 with 060 board and Picasso IV crap. Let me think: Picasso IV or ATI Radeon? 68060 or a powerful PPC processor? Amiga OS 3.9 or Amiga OS 4.1? NO BRAINER FOR ME.
 
Let me clear things up for you guys: The highest quality and best Amiga model ever produced is the Amiga 2000, this is a fact not my opinion. So, if you have an Amiga 2000, keep it. Never trade it for an Amiga 3000, 4000, or 1200. Also, keep in mind that the Amiga 500 (the Amiga 2000's little brother) is the most popular and number one selling Amiga model of all time. Never trade an Amiga 500 for an Amiga 600 or 1200. If you are puffed up with ego, and you want an Amiga that is really fast and has high resolution graphics, buy an AmigaOne with OS 4.1. It is just that easy boys and girls.


Hi i have 3 Amiga 2000 and i must say that they keeps going strong even if they are over 20 years old, even the floppy works in all of them :-) i also have amiga 4000 and amiga 600, but i always seem to have some problems with my amiga 600
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D
 

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Re: A2000 w/ 060 speed?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2012, 12:15:07 PM »
Quote from: nscaleworld;703254
That's right, because they are poorly designed and are lower quality.  The Amiga 2000s are built like German tanks.  :D


Yes when i take it apart its says made in germany all over :-) i will always keep them, even if they are big. right now i have one connected to my 43 plasma screen and it works flawless without change anything on the amiga :)
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D
 

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Re: A2000 w/ 060 speed?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2012, 12:39:05 PM »
Quote from: matt3k;703261
I have both a decked out 3000 and a 2000.  I would recommend a 3000.  Overall the 3000 is faster a more is more usable.  From boot time to io a 3000 is a really nice upgrade.  I love my 2000s but the 3000's are what I prefer.  I haven't had any trouble with whdload and when the z3 bus kicks in the difference is pronounced.

There is a reason the 3000s are valued higher than a 2000.

I would say a 3000 built in west chester is the best Amiga to own.  
As far as a ng Amiga...  I own a pb with mos 3.1 and it is an awesome os and extremely fast but I prefer the 3000 for many functions.

These are my opinions and observations good luck...

Okay i have never seen a amiga 3000 before. Is it 030 cpu in them and how many ram do you have :)
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D
 

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Re: A2000 w/ 060 speed?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2012, 01:22:44 PM »
Quote from: matt3k;703265
Hi Lassie,

Both of them are accelerated.  A stock 2000 vs a stock 3000 wouldn't be pretty :)...

Both have 040's between 33 and 40 Mhz.  Both have memory on the accelerator (8- 64 megs).  

Don't get me wrong I love the 2000 but, the 3000 is faster and is the same build quality...


Hi again will it say if you had an Amiga 2000 And Amiga 3000, both with the same cpu and the same ram the 3000 will be faster?
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D
 

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Re: A2000 w/ 060 speed?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 09:25:17 PM »
Quote from: terminator4;703337
while on topic of a2000...
Only rev 4 board is german made and it had issues.  
rev 4.x and 6 were designed in westchester, pa and produced in hong kong / taiwan etc.
All my Amiga 2000s don't say Made in germany so maybe you have something you picked up in europe?
I also have rev 4.3 A2000 board and thats cr*p compared to rev 6.x which has all the changes and fixes.  of all of them 6.2 and 6.3 and 6.4 are more desirable obviously.
I think A2000 was build at time when Commodore was doing ok, ok enough not to be cheap etc.  A3000 came in 1990 and I think by then Amiga/Apple were losign their edge to IBM Clones so some corners might have been cut (the case is very small similar to PC-ii or PC-iii that commodore was selling)


Hi yes my 3 amigas i have purchased in Denmark and Germany
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D