Why did commodore went under?

[lassie]

Hi why do you guys think commodore went under? one must think that all the Commodores and amigas they have sold over the years must have been giving them a lot of money in the bank.

[lassie]

Yes that old commodore 64 sold well here in denmark to. I got mine in 1992 :-)

[lassie]

The c64 was one of commodores best machines. I saw them still be sold around 1993 here in the UK. Some were reconditioned because the demand for them was still strong. If there were reliable upgrade kits like you can get for the Amiga I think I would do it for my C64.

Did you not have a Commodore Magazine that ran until 1995 in the uk. Commodore Format i belive :-)

[lassie]

Yeah. I bought them right upto the death. Still have a lot of my tapes laying around.

Cool :-) i have purchased some Commodore Format magazines from uk here the last couple of months, very cool magazine :-) A shame postage is so high to Denmark. most times it cost more to send them than the magazines them self

[lassie]

There are many reasons why Commodore failed here are my few:
 

• Lack of chipset updates. ECS is not even worth mentioning. No Paula update. No chipset support for high density floppies. AGA was released too late.
• Lack of professional software. Apple inc addressed this matter by setting up Claris. Commodore should have done the same or at the very least subsidised the development of professional packages such as Word Perfect.
• The Amiga 500 and 1200 were too expandable. The worst thing Commodore done was providing the A500 with a side connector that allowed pretty much anything available on their big box A2000 to be used on the A500.  Although the A1200 corrected this matter to some degree by replacing the side connector with a PCMCIA slot hardware developers got around this by using the A1200 trapdoor slot. The A600 trapdoor slot was a step in the right direction for commodore as it only allowed RAM expansion.
• The Amiga 2000. Oh dear. First it was a expanded A1000 then a A500 with a massive expansion board. Simply adding double the RAM was not enough. The Amiga 2000 never should have left Commodore without a 68020+ processor and on-board SCSI. As many will agree the A3000 was a big box Amiga done right!
• Releasing/developing the following junk

CDTV - Designed to be user friendly. This was hardly the case with terrible disc caddy system, old 1.3 ROMs and no in-built floppy drive (when all Amiga software to that date was released on floppy) made no sense

A600 / C65 - Desperate attempts by Commodore in reliving the  
C= 64 era

• Many more issues such as: poor marketing, lack of licensing the Amiga chipset to third party developers, not working with enemy Atari to bring down costs (by sharing components) and not moving to generic PC parts such as keyboards ultimately cost Commodore their business.

Thanks for your answer :-) yeah it seems like they made a lot of mistake along the way.

[lassie]

The CD32 imo was another dumb project, they should have focused on just making decent computers instead of being a jack of all trades - every major Computer maker that has ever tried making a console has failed:

Apple Pippin
Atari Jaguar
Amiga CD32
Panasonic 3DO
Philips CDi
Commodore CDTV

in fact you could almost list the IBM PCjr in there too as it had a cartridge port for games.

Do you collect Philips cdi and Atari jaguar also? i also have them :-)

[lassie]

Nope, wouldnt mind an Atari Falcon tho.

I know that those machines failed but mayby that is why i collect them :-) but yes a falcon could be cool to have

[lassie]

Ha, I have an Atari Jaguar as well, and have always wanted a Falcon.  They were pricey when they came out, were very much like when the Amiga was first announced, with a lot of sweet features.  I've try looking up to see if I can get a hold of one every once in a while, but no one ever wants to part with them.  It's very much like Amiga users, they don't ever part with them, unless they decide to charge more than it'd cost to get a generic PC and emulate 'em.

I do need a Falcon and probably an A1200 with an A500 to round out my collection.  I don't have a C64, but I was never a fan (I did love the Atari 8-bits though, which really with Jay Miner being the father of that... it's probably more related to the Amiga anyhow)

slaapliedje

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On Topic;  I recall when it happened that everyone had said it was due to management going to the Bahamas all the time and spending the money frivolously.[/QUO


cool what kind of games do you like for the jaguar :-) have you noticed you can buy many jaguar games new and sealed?