Amiga 4000 with 030 for 3d games

[lassie]

Hey i am new to this forum so hope i put this right.
I am going to get a Amiga 4000 with 030 cpu and 18 mb ram and hard disk, but do you know if that is good engugh for playing 3d games? like Doom and other games like that? i have found a place where i can buy 128 mb ram, but does the extre ram make a faster amiga for demanding games, or should i upgrade to 040 cpu?

Greetings here from Denmark

[lassie]

hey thanks for your answer :-)

[lassie]

Low end 040 is twice as fast than 030 50mhz. So 040 is allways faster than 030.

Cytadela is only 3d game with texture mapping that plays acceptable speed with 030 25mhz.

http://hol.abime.net/3027

Doom is almost playable with 030 50mhz, but quit playable with 040 25mhz. All Amiga only 3D games are playable with 040 cpu.

thanks for your answer :-) i have had a look at 040 cpu complete. it is hard to find one cheap. they always seems to cost around 200 dollars.

Are there any chance to change the inside with motorola 040 instead of a full 040 board? as they seem to be to a fair price. or can that not be done?

[lassie]

Where in denmark? As for 3d games, there are plenty you can play on that setup but not with texturemapping. But games like wings, robocop 3 and gunship 2000 plays well on that machine.

hello i live in skive :-) and yes you are right there are many games there work very well on that setup

[lassie]

hey you are right the Amiga is not a 3d machine. So mayby i will let it stay with 030 cpu and 18 mb ram. i know that all the cd32 games and amiga 500 games work flawless on it. :-)

[lassie]

Thanks for all your input :-) i dont know much about Amiga even though i have a few :-)
So its nice to get some answers from you guys :-)

[lassie]

thanks i will have a look on you tube later :-)

[lassie]

Low end 040 is twice as fast than 030 50mhz. So 040 is allways faster than 030.

Cytadela is only 3d game with texture mapping that plays acceptable speed with 030 25mhz.

http://hol.abime.net/3027

Doom is almost playable with 030 50mhz, but quit playable with 040 25mhz. All Amiga only 3D games are playable with 040 cpu.

Hi i have just tried Cytadela on my Amiga 4000, quite a cool game, never tried it before

[lassie]

I finished DOOM on my A1200 with a 28Mhz 030, it ran acceptible enough for me to play through until the end, in low-detail. Sometimes I had to reduce the window size, but it's still playable. DOOM also runs on a 14Mhz 020, as does Breathless and a bunch of other 3D games, so at least get the A4000 and try them on it as it is before rushing out and purchasing an accelerator. If you get the 128MB RAM card (and maybe remove the 16MB onboard RAM) it should speed up the system a bit without needing a new CPU since the RAM is much faster.

Thanks for your answer i have been thinking to buy 128 mb ram for it. They are quite cheap nowadays

[lassie]

The comment on DoomAttack is worth bearing in mind. I find DoomAttack to run a tiny bit more smooth than ADoom (also, I think ADoom lacks the music, though midi music doesn't sound very "amiga" )

Yes you are right there no music in ADoom, I have just played it on my Amiga 4000/30 but its quite slow, even if i play in small window in low res, I need more ram or bigger cpu