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Offline lassie

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Re: HDMI output for A1200?
« on: September 18, 2012, 09:15:18 PM »
Quote from: leirbag28;388759
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 I believe itis possible, but in a much easier way than you think.



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You dont have to run Workbench in SuperHiRes Mode. You can just run it in Hires Interlaced and upscale it somewhat.

The easiest way Ive seen to get HDMI on Amiga is via and Upscale DVD player with S-Video inputs...........My DVD Player upscales my Amiga Output and outputs it to my FLickerFixing Projector via HDMI.........it looks the same as S-video but blurry somewhat because I guess the upscaler expects pixelization and overcompensates.

Therefore HDMI is possible on the Amiga via a simple scandoubler type looking device that attaches to the RGB port and does the Upscaling, yet supports SuperHires interlaced mode as well if someone chose to use that.

Personally I use SuperHiresMode for Text credits and scrolling credits on Video.........looks freakin awesome.


Sometimes getting too technical about things makes it seem impossible.  but it is easily achievable (and by that I dont mean that it is easy creating the hardware) I just mean the concept is easy.

The Amiga itself doesnt have to have a native HDMI output, because then it would need modifications and slow down the system...........


Hi i also have one of those boxes that can be used with HDMI. but it gets very blurry as you said. it is a shame because it did cost a lot.
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Re: HDMI output for A1200?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 11:51:18 PM »
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you would probably be better off with a SCART->HDMI for better quality./QUOTE]

... only if the adapter converts the RGB part. Composite will suck.


Yes that could be nice, but it only takes Composite the one i have now :( why is it SCART is better than Composite? is it something to do with the signal?
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
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Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
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Re: HDMI output for A1200?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 06:50:17 PM »
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It's to do with that seperate signals för Red-Green-Blue and sync is way better than just push it all into the same signal wire. But SCART provides both RGB, S-video, Composite and users don't really know which ones are used..

Oh, and a signal path of D/A -> A/D is not better than a fully digital path.


I have a SCART Adaptor where i can put the Red-White-Yellow cable from the Amiga into, and then i can put it in the SCART on my TV. Will that give me better picture quality or is it still not real SCART?
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
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Commodore 64
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Re: HDMI output for A1200?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 08:47:29 PM »
Quote from: freqmax;708704
I assume it's Red-White-Yellow <=> Right-Left (sound) -Yellow (composite video) so it's kind of the worst signal quality used with SCART. But's it's still SCART. Because that standard is a collection of possible signal standards.

So yes, it is SCART. But not optimaly used.


   
I have 2 SCART to Amiga RGB Cables but when i use them on my 43 inch plasma screen, i get worse picture than when i use Composite cable. I find that very strange
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D
 

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Re: HDMI output for A1200?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 09:22:11 PM »
Quote from: orange;708711
are you sure TV is in 'RGB' mode? I suggest you build this one:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=47281


Hi do you mean there are something i need to change in my TV settings?
Amiga 4000 030 18 MB ram. 16 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 030 34 MB ram. 8 Gb HD.
Amiga 1200 Tower Apollo 1240
Amiga 2000 030. 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 5 MB ram. 500 MB HD.
Amiga 2000 68000 9 MB ram. 1 Gb HD.
Amiga 600 4 MB ram. 4 GB HD.
Amiga 600 1 MB ram. 60 MB HD.
Amiga 500 1 MB ram.
Amiga 500 Plus
Amiga CD32
Amiga CD32
Commodore 64
Commodore 64C
Commodore 128
Commodore 128D