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Remapollo for A4060
« on: February 06, 2018, 01:45:32 AM »
Hello!

Is there any remaper like remapollo for Apollo 4060, Remapollo 1.8 doesn't seem to work with A4060, or is there a way to put it working?

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Re: Remapollo for A4060
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 08:14:54 PM »
Here is my startup-sequence for my A4000D with Apollo 4060
Library for 060 is 60.10 as recomended. Patch was made from an old one also as recomended.
Modules were made with RUX AmigaOS ROM Update.

Still hangs, don't know why.

; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.7 (30.10.2016) for BB4
; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems

C:DRAP
IF WARN
C:RemAPollo QUIET MAC Modules LIBS:OS3.9/OS_Module1 OS_Module2 OS_Module3 OS_Module4 OS_Module5 OS_Module6 OS_Module7 OS_Module8 OS_Module9
EndIF
FailAt 21
C:LoadResident >NIL: DEVS:trackdisk.device
FailAt 20
C:LoadModule >NIL: DEVS:battmem.resource DEVS:console.device DEVS:FileSystem.resource DEVS:misc.resource DEVS:potgo.resource L:FastFileSystem L:Ram-Handler L:Shell-Seg LIBS:dos.library LIBS:layers.library REVERSE NOREBOOT
C:SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES console.device,dos,filesystem,FileSystem.resource,ram-handler,shell QUIET

C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ

Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE

Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER

BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

C:LoadMonDrvs

;IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
;  IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
;    DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
;  EndIF

;  C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
;  Execute T:M
;  C:Delete >NIL: T:M
;EndIF

SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip

Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:

SYS:C/MakeLink RAM:disk.info ENVARC:SYS/def_RAM.info SOFT

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
  Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:
 

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Re: Remapollo for A4060
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2018, 11:26:34 PM »
OK, everything works except DRAP command that stalls Apollo4060
You need to patch the 060 library v60.10 in order to make it run.
Patcher is included.
From that startup sequence I only removed DRAP. Also replaced OS3.9 Loadmodule for the latest one from aminet. Copied to C:
Now lets see what's going on with DRAP
 

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Re: Remapollo for A4060
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2018, 01:32:05 PM »
So, no more need for Kickstart update? This loads directly to ram like a rekicker?

Quote from: Thomas Richter;835941
Quite frankly, why are you using four different module loaders? "LoadModule" alone is sufficient. This aside, there is no bug in trackdisk.device that requires fixing, just use the one in ROM. Just the reverse, the latest "improvements" made in it can damage some hardware by decalibrating the read-head of the unit.

Hence:
a) Remapollo does not seem to be updated since 15 years at least. Is it wise to depend on a third party tool this old? Is there a particular need for this tool?

b) LoadResident has been superceeded by LoadModule, so remove it.

c) There is no advantage in a later trackdisk.device. Do not load this anyhow.

d) The SetPatch mechanism ROM Update should be then completely disabled:

"SetPatch NOROMUPDATE"

will do that for you. You get all the modules in the ROM Updates through "ExtractModule", which will also place them in the correct places.

All the above, once you place the Modules in the right places, can be done in a single line:

"LoadModule AUTO"

Yes, it is really that easy.
 

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Remapollo for A4060
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2018, 05:40:41 PM »
Well all I wanted to know was how to rekick with remapollo or if there is a good alternative for rekicking ROM.
 

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Re: Remapollo for A4060
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2018, 08:47:07 PM »
Quickrom maybe
 

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Re: Remapollo for A4060
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 10:04:45 PM »
What version of remapollo you use?
In my A4000D I have 2 behaviours.
On version 1.7
if I use the
If WARN
RemAPollo ....
EndIf
...
It doesn't work, Computer freezes.
On version 1.8 I have to use If WARN.... Or it won't softkick.
In either  versions I cannot use DRAP.
According to instructions we have to apply a ptch to 68060.library (60.10), wich I did. (I followed the instructions).
If I use skipromupdate ... it works.
If I use NOROMUPDATE quiet, it doesn't softKick.
Everything works, I understand what you say, I tried it, but maybe I'm still missing something.
From what I see now, only a few parts are rekicked, so, the best solution is to :
a) Make a rom and rekick it by software with your favourite requicker. (but that will still bring you trouble with scsi.device in apollo.
b) Burn ROMs the way you want and simplify S-S by removing manythings.


Quote from: PanterHZ;836082
You already have the most suitable tool installed. I promise you that it won't get any easier with another one :)

The main problem is that you have way too much (non standard) stuff going on in your Startup-Sequence, so it's not easy to pinpoint the exact reason for all the issues. I have tried to explain what you can do, but I realize that it may all sound a bit confusing.

So below is hopefully a more simpler explenation of what you can try, which sticks to the most basics of OS3.9 with Boing Bag 2 only (nothing more, nothing less) :


1. Do as I mentioned in another post regarding workbench.library and icon.library. In other words, copy them to the LIBS:OS3.9 dir, and rename or delete the ones in LIBS:


2. Make sure that the C:RemAPollo line looks exactly like this (everything on ONE line):

C:RemAPollo QUIET MAC Modules LIBS:OS3.9/OS_Module1 OS_Module2 OS_Module3 OS_Module4 OS_Module5 OS_Module6 OS_Module7 OS_Module8 OS_Module9  workbench.library  icon.library


3. Disable the C:LoadResident and C:LoadModule lines for now by inserting a semi-colon at the beginning of the line (you can deal with these later). The lines should then look like this:

;C:LoadResident >NIL: DEVS:trackdisk.device

;C:LoadModule >NIL: DEVS:battmem.resource DEVS:console.device DEVS:FileSystem.resource DEVS:misc.resource DEVSotgo.resource L:FastFileSystem L:Ram-Handler L:Shell-Seg LIBS:dos.library LIBS:layers.library REVERSE NOREBOOT


4. There is no need for SetPatch to have anything to do with the BB2 ROM updates, since this is already taken care of by RemAPollo. So change this line from:

C:SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES console.device,dos,filesystem,FileSystem.resource, ram-handler,shell QUIET

to:

C:SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET


5. Save the Startup-Sequence and turn off the Amiga. After a couple of seconds, turn it on again, and now the Amiga should hopefully boot into Workbench.



If the above doesn't work, it may be the result of issues with your 68060.library.
 

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Re: Remapollo for A4060
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2018, 10:55:43 AM »
I did exactly like it says on remapollo.doc.
rux  AmigaOS ROM Update A4000i
It gave me 9 OS_Module1-9, wich I put on the recommended drawer. DRAP just hangs.
Don't know why.
Anyway I found an easy way, maybe not the best. I just use SKIPROMUPDATE . It's important to skipromupdate scsi.device, that's what causes the problems. Then I use Quickrom. It works fine. KSRemap from GVP also works fine.