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Re: Why did commodore went under?
« on: August 10, 2012, 12:57:37 AM »
Just plain dumb management wasting money on building computers like the 128, a600, CDTV and then doing a half a$$ed job on the s4000.

Commodore USA also entirely failed to market the Amiga line properly and probably overpriced the 1000 compared to a fully equipped 512ST.
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Re: Why did commodore went under?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2012, 01:08:23 AM »
Yeah also stupid projects like the Plus4, c16 and all the other daft C64 variants!

I'd also say wasting money on the never released c65 project was also dumb!
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Re: Why did commodore went under?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2012, 01:19:46 AM »
The CD32 imo was another dumb project, they should have focused on just making decent computers instead of being a jack of all trades - every major Computer maker that has ever tried making a console has failed:

Apple Pippin
Atari Jaguar
Amiga CD32
Panasonic 3DO
Philips CDi
Commodore CDTV
Tandy/Memorex VIS

in fact you could almost list the IBM PCjr in there too as it had a cartridge port for games.
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Re: Why did commodore went under?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2012, 01:24:11 AM »
Quote from: lassie;702818
Do you collect Philips cdi and Atari jaguar also? i also have them :-)
Nope, wouldnt mind an Atari Falcon tho.
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Re: Why did commodore went under?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 12:00:53 PM »
One thing I'll never understand is why commodore insisted on on making PAL variants of their computers, why not simply make everything 60hz like in IBM land and be done with it! Then all software written for the machine will work in all markets, maybe add a 50hz video mode just for video editing, but standardize on 60hz for everything else.

Then you only need one monitor and one model for each computer line.
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Re: Why did commodore went under?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 12:09:23 PM »
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Because PAL televisions couldn't display 60 Hz in the 80:s?
From the Amiga onwards tho they should have made monitors mandatory - you couldn't hook an IBM up to a tv!

From the Amiga onwards this was IMO a big mistake!
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Re: Why did commodore went under?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 12:21:33 PM »
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The A3000 had a scandoubler and A600/A1200/A4000 should have had that too. They should have excluded the RF output on the A600/A1200 and maybe the composite output too (with 15 KHz RGB and 30 KHz VGA left).
Commodore could have used EGA Monitors as the standard on the 500/2000 and VGA on the 3000/4000 but still used OCS/ECS and AGA. This would have likely saved money and allowed the Amiga to be taken more seriously due to not being another plug into a TV job.
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Re: Why did commodore went under?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2012, 02:38:55 AM »
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The RGB port on the A500/2000 will use an EGA or CGA monitors. It looks really bad because those monitors are "digital" and predefined palette of 16 colors which don't map well to anything.
Ah ok, I didnt realise that.
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