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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« on: November 03, 2012, 10:03:15 PM »
should have tried the 25Mhz CPU with the 40Mhz crystal before replacing the cpu.
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2012, 10:57:23 PM »
Quote from: zipper;713789
Somewhere a little below 5 Mips I think.

with no 32bit ram on the accelerator, it'll do ~0.9mips...
edit: actually, it will be even lower than this, most likely score the same as the stock CPU

with SOME 32bit ram, even just 512k, it should be doing ~4.8mips...
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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2012, 11:00:25 PM »
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Havent received the 40Mhz stuff yet, still on it's way.

I was suggesting trying a faster crystal as the CPU you already have may run at 40Mhz just fine... mine is currently at 36Mhz ;)
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 02:28:12 AM »
is the crystal thats currently in there around the right way? :p
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2012, 06:07:39 AM »
same speed crystal I assume?

don't have any other speeds lying around do you?
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2012, 09:52:05 AM »
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Noooooooo! You will vaporize the cpu! :eek:

Attempting to overclock a processor beyond its limits won't simply result in it instantly failing...

Chances are it won't do anything with a 40mhz crystal.
Even if it does successfully boot, it won't just magically fail before you have a chance to run sysinfo and see what speed its running at.
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 08:56:23 PM »
I did say put the 40Mhz crystal in and see what happens... :p

that's pretty much the fastest crystal you're going to be able to use, unless you can clock the FPU at half the crystal speed too ;)
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2012, 10:09:10 PM »
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The manual tells you can clock the FPU separate with another osc (upto 33 MHz, perhaps more) and it's auto-sensed - but can't see any place in the pics to put it in.

nor could I? plus I couldn't read German :p

My Mega Midget Racer has spots for two crystals, you can then use jumpers to either clock the FPU at the same speed as the CPU, using a single crystal, or clock it at its own speed, using a separate crystal...
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2012, 11:04:47 PM »
Realistically, the FPU will take upto 40Mhz, but as someone mentioned, the memory might not, 30Mhz? maybe 33Mhz or even 36Mhz are all possible, but you'll still only be running the CPU at half this speed.
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 11:37:11 PM »
The issue may be that the memory won't run at the higher speeds anyway...

try with the 40Mhz crystal, see what happens, take it from there ;)
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2012, 12:36:14 AM »
FPU should be ok at up to 50Mhz.. that's whats in mine... so, try the 40Mhz, if that works, step it up!

at least IF the 50Mhz crystal works, you'll have the CPU at 25Mhz ;)

edit: which FPU do you have? 68882? or 68881?
if the FPU doesn't work at higher speed, you can probably remove it and use a 60Mhz crystal, the specs say you can run the 68882 at upto 60Mhz, so I assume the rest of the card will accept this, I assume everything else is running at half this speed anyway.
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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2012, 12:18:39 PM »
did you get it, did you get it, did you get it, did you get it?
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2012, 11:08:40 PM »
if you're going to try a 80Mhz crystal, take the FPU out first :p
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 01:26:04 AM »
ah, so that was new crystal, and new CPU?

interesting...
 

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Re: 68030 not running at 25Mhz
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 01:34:22 AM »
try removing the FPU?