Framiga wasn't like crystal clear on his post... "its the original risercard, bundled with the Mikronik 4000Tower kit" should either not have the "original" in there or add RBM afterwards or something. Anyway... at least I missunderstood that and someone less knowledgable could do the same and so I posted. Either way theres no need to "sigh.. please.. talk to the hand.. rolleyes.. yawn" etc etc. As said it was a missunderstanding due to the post not being clear.