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G-Force 030 Again
« on: November 15, 2012, 06:50:46 PM »
So my G-force 030 is in and working.  I figured I would just start a new thread to deal with the issue I'm having.  So thanks to my new friend DutchinUSA, I now have 13 meg of memory on my board, thanks again Dutchin.  If I boot up and run SysInfo, it shows up with 13 meg of 32-bit fast ram, starting at $01000000.  If I put my A2058 board in, with it set to 2, 4, or 8 meg, the machine will not boot, but I get the black w/red text software error or failure screen, and it reboots, again, and again.  So, with the 2 meg of chip ram, and 13 meg of 32-bit fast ram, can I not have any regular 24-bit fast ram.  I was thinking that the regular 24-bit fast ram was mapped to a lower value, and that the reason the 32-bit ram started at $01000000 was to avoid conflict with the regular fast ram.  I thought this was considered extended fast ram.  So, the board I have is completely different to the book.  From what I have read, GVP was infamous for this on these boards.  It is an 030 running at 25 mhz, actually, it has a 22 mhz crystal, so that is the true speed.  What is the maximum ram I can have, and any suggestions on the jumper settings?  I attached pictures of the card.  Thanks.

    Another note, it probably doesn't matter on the memory part, but I did upgrade the autoboot ROM to 4.15.  Thanks.
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Re: G-Force 030 Again
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 12:24:49 AM »
Thanks a bunch, I'll check on those two jumpers and get back with you.
 

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Re: G-Force 030 Again
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 12:39:12 AM »
OK, so J13 is open, and J10 is shorted.  Here  are the other jumpers on the board:

CN7 Jumper on pins 2&3 On the pointed end
CN8 Jumper on pins 2&3 On the pointed end
J20 open
J4 open
J8 open
J9 shorted
J3 open
J6 open
J7 shorted
J19 shorted
J11 open
J12 shorted
J14 open
J16 open

Like I said, my manual is not the same as what is actually on my board, I don't know what is up with that.  Thanks a lot!
 

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Re: G-Force 030 Again
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012, 03:16:27 AM »
OK, more info.  It seems to be a problem with ClassicWB ADVSP.  I can boot from a workbench 3.1 floppy, and it shows over 20 meg fast memory free at the top, and 2 meg chip memory free.  If I try to boot it this way with the HD and ClassicWB, I get the software failure, and rolling re-boots.  The funny thing is, also, if I run GVPCpuCtrl FASTROM, which is the later version of SetCPU, it tells me I must have an 030 or 060 accelerator to run that software.  But, when I do get ClassicWB to run, without the A2058, using the Combo Card's ram only, it says ECS 030 at the top.  It is weird.  Of course the manual that I have isn't right, so this probably isn't the right software for this card, either.  I think this is a strange version of the card that isn't common or something.
 

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Re: G-Force 030 Again
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2012, 05:30:04 AM »
OK, I got an update.  I installed ClassicWB Lite on a CF card, and it works fine with the Gforce.  The SetCPU CACHE FASTROM command works fine.  No crashes, so it must be something with the ADVSP version.  I am going to try the Full version and see what it does.  Thanks.
 

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Re: G-Force 030 Again ClassicWB
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2012, 06:43:14 AM »
So, I found that everything I've tried on Lite works OK, except when I run Dopus, and click the C button to configure, then it goes to the same software failure.  Everything seems OK except for that.  On the Full version, it boots fine, and crashes on simple functions like opening a shell.
 

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Re: G-Force 030 Again ClassicWB
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2012, 07:34:40 AM »
So, I now have ClassicWB 68K loaded, SetCPU CACHE FASTROM command is in startup-sequence.  Machine boots up fine, is fast, and no problems so far, even when configuring Dopus.
 

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Re: G-Force 030 Again
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 03:18:20 AM »
Well, thanks to Orcish75, everything works now on my A2000HD.  It was something with having Zorro II RAM installed, while using the SCSI controller on-board the 030 combo card.  I removed the A2058, and now have only the 13 meg 32-bit fast ram on the combo board.  I installed ClassicWB 3.5 and everything worked fine.  I was even able to burn a CD with MakeCD.  According to Orcish, if you were to use a different Zorro II SCSI controller, you can add the extra fast ram, but using the on-board controller, it crashes pretty much all ClassicWB.  I am using the on-board controller now, with no additional fast ram.  Thanks Orcish75 for all your help.