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Offline Matt_HTopic starter

AmigaOS 4.1 Reviewed at OSNews.com
« on: July 15, 2009, 12:55:55 AM »
Thom Holwerda received a Sam440ep-Flex review system from ACube and has posted a write-up of his experiences using an Amiga for the first time.

Check out the review here.
 

Offline Matt_HTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Reviewed at OSNews.com
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 05:56:23 AM »
Good review, I think, as it highlights challenges in getting the Amiga to appeal to new users. The statement that the community is insular and unwelcoming was a real shocker, though. It doesn't matter if any of us think that's untrue - if any potential new users think that to be the case, it's a serious problem we need to work on collectively.

The ClickToFront, snapshotting, and file management issues raised in the article are indicative as well. I suspect most of us who've been using the Amiga for ages probably learned about those things from manuals, magazines, and through osmosis at user groups - resources that are (with rare exceptions on the magazine front) pretty much no longer available. Yes, such questions are easily answered by users here, but it's an impediment to usability if one needs to go directly to the internet to answer questions that should be (and used to be) addressed in documentation. OS4's online help is a big improvement in that it exists, but how will a new user know how to invoke it? There's no Help key on the PC keyboards we use now that would invite anyone to press it and see the result. And the Quickstart guide is lacking in detail.

There's really no substitute for a reference manual. the Commodore OS manuals were digitized and slightly updated for OS3.5. They should be updated again for inclusion on the OS4 CD.
 

Offline Matt_HTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Reviewed at OSNews.com
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 03:12:53 PM »
Quote from: paolone;515744
Sorry, I disagree. I see as an "impediment to usability" everything that has to be explained in a manual, a guide file or a pdf, and in the Amiga world there are plenty of these things.


Fair point. Yes, the UI should be obvious from just using it, but I think the next level of support should be the manual, not Google.

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Tom wrote with assumptions that make us laugh, but the issue with the Snapshot option being still there in 2010 *is* a relic from the past and the OS today really should behave differently. But try to propose the Amiga community a change in any obsolete Amiga paradygm, and you'll start a long hot flame.


I can't count the number of times I've been grateful for manual snapshotting, but if new users find it annoying, there needs to be some level of accommodation. A global auto-snapshot toggle, perhaps. Could probably be done as a commodity.

Then again, we have the KISS principle and risk of feature creep, from which I think OS4 is already suffering big time. There's also the timeless advice from the UI Style Guide to consider: if 90% of your users prefer a, and all but the most intransigent could put up with it, don't bother making b an option.

Quite a challenge we face!

My point was that since we don't have documentation anymore, we need to find new ways to address the Amiga's idiosyncrasies. My original thought was to simply update the documentation, but there could be other solutions as well.
 

Offline Matt_HTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Reviewed at OSNews.com
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 02:17:22 AM »
No Java, but Flash (gnash) will probably be available soon.

The Amiga shell has always been pretty powerful; I expect you'll be happy with it. If you've never used an Amiga before, buy Amiga Forever and try out the shell in an OS3.x environment - very similar experience for a substantially smaller investment.