AmigaOne boards - I hear rumblings, can anyone confirm

[benJamin]

The only reason Hyperion have lasted this long is because they do know how to run a business.  And their 'staff' haven't deserted them, so they're obviously being treated somewhat satisfactorially.

From memory, the only reason they were able to get as far as they did in the first place is because they run from a business point of view, not a developer's one.

OS4 is not vapourware, I've seen it running, something which I can't speak of for MorphOS.  This makes me consider OS4 to be more well-known; it may be that it is more readily adopted  upon release of OS5 (zealotry will get you everywhere).

And finally, how many non-laptop portable computers run on x86 architecture?  Compare how many run on a RISC-based architecture.  Who cares if the PPC has lost in the desktop/server market?  This is not the sector of the industry consumerism is tending toward.


benJamin

Leela: "Soon enough."
Fry:   "But, that's not soon enough!"

[benJamin]

Who said anything about what was(n't) an Amiga?  I don't class my MSI motherboard as an Amiga, but it still runs AROS and AmigaOS3.1, so I still get to use my Amiga-centric programs in an Amiga-centric enviroment.  Sure, it's not quite as nice as the real thing, but my real machines are on sabatical until I move to the next house, except one which I'm leeching all the files off to do some nostalgia releasing.

And, honestly, if you don't think OS4/MorphOS/AROS are Amiga, then you are not considering the identifying quantity of such a title: the user that operates them.

Amithlon is an Amiga, because the user is an Amigan and the software utilises the hardware through a familiar set of libaries and a logical, easy-to-identify with file structure which does not obfuscate important infrastructure.  If you don't like the 'Format' dialogue, just replace it.  The 'Info' window not providing enough interoperability?  There are many replacements.  Everything can be changed to suit the intended application by supplementing the original components in a system-friendly manner.

These things, combined with religious zealotry, are what makes an Amiga what it is.  The (re)actions of a lot of people on this site only prove that ALL of the machines which claim to be successors to the Amiga are Amigas themselves.

Finally, the 'Classic' Amiga line is not dead.  I still use it, as do many others; there are any number of hobbiest projects attempting to replicate and/or propagate the humble design of those ex-Atari geniuses we constantly seem to forget.

benJamin

"Objection!  Badgering the witness!"

[benJamin]

As usual, most of my comments should be tasted with a pinch of salt and a dash of pepper, but...

@redrumloa
You'd suppose that OS4 was going to be the money-spinner?  :roll:

@Kronos
The damage has been done, but I would like to hope that their continued efforts come to something, rather than naught (like most of AIncs other cross-licensing schemes).

@pierre
Though, people are still eeking out part of their living by helping us ensure that our machines stay functioning, whether it be providing services, repairs, or parts.  The couple of cents here and there are still a money flow.  There are still commercial entities who rely upon these small-time folk, who probably make most of their money on other products outside the scope of 'Amiga', to keep some of their services running.

It is unfortunate, however, that by-and-large, these few remaining customers are converting to PCs, as the AOne fell through, they're sick of waiting, and Pegasos and the like are considered a 'why would we bother, we only kept the other machines 'cause they do their jobs and hardly ever fail?'.  (Supposedly, the FDD's are the most failure-prone part of the system).

Using + upkeeping + developing = living (though life-support is becoming expensive).

@T Bone
Suppose the size of the pond between Deutschland and America is wide and tretcherous.  I don't think it was merely balls that got them screwed to the wall where they are now, but it's definitely more than just balls that help them work there, sweating and aching and striving for release.

The question was not AOS4, it was any OS (proprietary or otherwise).  And I'm not talking about Palms or such, I'm considering the most prolific electronic devices on the planet.  Maybe AROS won't do much different than Simbian on a Nokia, but I'd sure-as-hell like to give it a whirl!


To those people who made efforts and have seen them stifled by the way of the contracts, I feel very concerned for the situation.  I long for the day I can enjoy the fruits of such labour on every device I own, with or without emulation, including the toaster and fridge.


I try not to come across as naive, but sometimes the best way to get a message through is to coat it in cotton buds and bubble wrap so that it doesn't hurt so much when it's bounced back at you.


benJamin
"I apologise for helping thoroughly hijack this thread."