@Cymric
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leirbag28 wrote:
Ok then..........why do you suppose many of us Amigans still use our Amigas as Main machines???
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Because you know every nook and cranny of the machine. You know its idiosyncracies. You know at what phase of the Moon you should ritually slaughter a chicken and perform dark magic rites to exorcise the pent-up bad juju.
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Yes Cymric......this is partially part of the reason.......but with Good Reason! The Amiga is excellent!
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Partly its because of its responsiveness............When I am Doing Visuals I use:
Scala MM300
Elan Performer
DSS8
MindEYE
Trip A Tron
Brilliance
AMPlifier
all at the same Time! on a 68030 CD32/SX32 and I swap between them with the LEFT AMIGA + M key! Never seen a PC swap that fast! and still no slowdown.
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You are a sick masochist to use all that on a 68030 simultaneously. You know what I think? I think that you are grossly overestimating the response time of your tiny setup, and grossly underestimating that of a PC. You are also comparing task switching times when none of these programs are busy doing calculations and are in fact just waiting for user input. (The reason why I joined this forum was a discussion on task switching times. Someone wrote a program to demonstrate that Windows Sucked Badly. Unfortunately, he silently ignored setup delays, memory paging, and what not. And I am very certain you are ignoring that, too.)
I also think that you never gave the PC equivalent a sporting chance because, as I said earlier, you know your way around this setup, and actively dislike learning something new. You have developed a certain way of doing things, you feel comfortable with it, and damn the rest even if it would boost your productiveness. That's fine with me: if you are happy playing with techniques developed in the Stone---okay, Bronze---Age, who am I to argue. But that doesn't mean that PC's automatically suck.
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This is also True (some of it) SO I say ok then..... Task Switching on PC's Suck! :-D
By the way Try my setup.......68030 50mhz 128mb 40 gighd MASPlayer and see for yourself..........SCALA can run scripts and you can press LEFT AMIGA M and switch to workbench and run an MP3 from AMPlifier with not much difference..........and SCALA is still running it presentation. My Amiga needs to be capable of this.........the Club has no time to wait for me to Load software. This is activiely happening for 4 to 5 hours straight.
I will again say...Task switching on PC's definitely suck..................Due in part to the way VGA monitors wait to change sync......and also due to the Stupid start menu..........even key combination switching is just not the same............Draggable Amiga screens and clicking the top right corner icon on Amiga is simply unmatched.......Sorry, this is one of my favorite Amiga features........its just done right.......
........and....I'm not a masochist.......you only think that because you think my Amiga is slowing down. Its Not! I do however only probably use only 2 apps at a time (and yes you are right that they are just waiting user input) although all of them are open even though I only have 2mb Chip RAM :-D again....amazing considering how my P4 slows down if I have 4 apps open.
Ohhhh boy! And I am definitely not overestimating response Times. Do me a favor......Get Elan Performer load animations on to every single key.......preload them into RAM (the reason I need 128mb of RAM) or get a SCSI HD.......now Perform! as fast as you can! See! Thats why its called "PERFORMER" the best app of its kind on the Amiga..........theres tons of imitations on the PC (Archoas, Composite Station, GRID 2, Resolume,) and I find mine to be the slickest, even on my teeny weeny 030.
This speed may not impress you if your not a VJ.but think in terms of Fast Techno Music...and every image or animation on that key popping up at will intime with the music.
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I also think that you never gave the PC equivalent a sporting chance because, as I said earlier, you know your way around this setup, and actively dislike learning something new. You have developed a certain way of doing things, you feel comfortable with it, and damn the rest even if it would boost your productiveness. That's fine with me: if you are happy playing with techniques developed in the Stone---okay, Bronze---Age, who am I to argue. But that doesn't mean that PC's automatically suck.
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Your right on this passage in almost all acounts.............But I use my PC every day..........every morning....every night..............to search for solutions to replace tasks on my Amiga................namely FIle conversion and Video Playback.
My conclusion..............a PC can never be used professionally for what I use it for reliably.............unless you never connect that PC to the internet and keep it clean and uncluttered. and use another PC for downloading.email etc.....just burn what you need to CD to put it on that PC.....................even wth all this......it still doesnt feel right.......Windows' directory file structure makes no sence.......its the most WACKO of its kind..............PC users are blind to this cuz they never knew anything better. So they dont get it when I say something like this.
I dont think PC's automatically suck........ one of my quotes is "Its not that Amigas are really good......it's that PC's really suck"
I dont think Amigas are all that great........I just think they are done Properly..and PC are not............Amiga has a good foundation OS, the PC does not..they just add Rockets and Turo Boost to a horrible OS to hide its crappiness By painting over it with More RAM more Mhz, More HD space...........Ridiculous! considering what the Amiga can do with such low specs............I will even completely cast out OS3.9 and below and just compare OS4 to Windows and Macs..........its still wayyyyyyy more efficient.
And by the way.......I never Said "I was NOT a Fanatic" I definitely am............I was just saying thats NOT the reason why I was saying what I was saying.
And some people might not get it......but I am one of those people who believes he can take on Microsoft with Amiga OS and win! YES! in this Day and age right now.
For some reason people always misunderstand a statement like that and think:
"You think you can take on WindowsXP with AmigaOS 3.1? Hardee Har har....your insane!.....and you think You can take on a Pentium 4 with an OLD custom chipset? HArdee Har har! Your insane"
and the answer is NO........Im speaking of a Modern day Equivalent Amiga with OS 3.6 (or OS 5.2) and a Modern XBOX beating custom Chipset..that can emulate 4 XBOX at once.....but wont come with that capability out of the Box......only with the capability of emulating 2.
Completely fascinate people in the way it looks and works.
All for the Price of $600....being a Full blown computer and Game machine HDTV Component and S-Video out a Native, DVD,VCD,CD+G,PhotoCD, QuickTime DIVX, PhotoJPG and more....able to boot from these kinds of discs, to be viewed immediately, just like a CD32' VCD, AudioCD, CD+G capability and VLM (Jeff Minters Virtual Light Machine type Visuals).....4 joypad ports as standard (Non USB).....and more which I wont mention)
To me Any machine that has anything less of what I mentioned and is released as an "Amiga" today.......is NO Amiga.....its just a Computer with the name slapped on. A nice comparable machine to PC's and Macs it may be........but for that...I would rather get a Mac..which is safer buy and is more established. Simply becaue that kind of "Amiga" will not succeed or make a dent in this day and age.
