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Offline leirbag28

Re: Who still supports Amiga?
« on: November 27, 2005, 01:46:06 PM »
@ChaosLord

Dude!  I just realised...........Your in Texas!!! so your an American?

Why on earth thn did you make Total Chaos in PAL instead of NTSC? (Please dont say its because PAL has higher resolution...it doesnt, just more lines without scrolling)

NTSC would have been faster and more Fun for us Americans.......as we would be able to play it on Large TV screens and show it off to Friends :-D

Can you somehow make this game run in NTSC?  all one has to do if you need more lines is make the screen scroll down to where you need to see.

I think I was able to load it once in NTSC by using the program NTSC4NTSC and typing: "NTSC4NTSC FORCENTSC"

I think I got it on Aminet.  the problem is.it wont let me scroll down to make any selection.

By the way....the game never worked for me..either in PAL or NTSC because I think it is missing some files that got lost or corrupt durring decompression.........I used DiskMaster2....maybe I should Try WizARC?

Diskmaster said something like:  Skipping extraneous data, and basically just didnt decompress that or threw it out..who knows.

CD32 is actually the best Amiga ever made by Commodore!...
 

Offline leirbag28

Re: Who still supports Amiga?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2005, 11:00:25 PM »
@ChaosLord

Wow!  Long answer :-)..thanks:

But I disagree on some points:

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f it has more lines then it has more resolution.

NTSC = 640x400
PAL = 640x512

Therefore PAL is HIGHER Resolutiuon than NTSC. I wrote all about this stuff in the Amiga WIKI because some people have real confusion on this issue.
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Nope!  PAL is not even one pixel higher in resolution......even if it was Fully overscan

I will prove it............Make your WB NTSC.......
Adjust your 1084 monitor controls to fit the NTSC image centered on the 1084 with just a centimeter border all around as normal.....
then load a paint program........put it in HiresLaced NTSC 640 x 400

Draw some text with a big font...now put our Paint program in PAL mode............does the text look one iota clearer to you?  Nope.............UNLESS!  you readjust the controls on the back of your 1084 to fit the entire PAL image into the same space as the NTSC image..........something that no 1084 or TV does   automatically (Except PHILIP TVs)

Also those Philip CMKII's or whever they are called truly Support a Higher res PAL as they automatically shrink the image to the same space as NTSC  which means More Pixels per inch which equals Higher resolution

As a matter of fact.not even 1024 x 768 is  NOT higher resolution....unless all those pixels are squeezed to fit the 640 x 400 area. Otherwise its just 640 x 480 with autoscroll and severe overscan :-)

So in other words...........all PAL mode is on a 1084 is NTSC with top and bottom overscan which you dont see unless you adjust your 1084 monitor............otherwise its just cut off info.

Maybe you dont notice this because maybe your Amiga has the jumper in PAL mode and maybe that makes it True PAL mode (Which probably squeezes all the pixels in the NTSC area or the Viewable monitor area..but NTSC 1200's or 600's or 500's  dont do this. Never seen one that does, unless one has a Magnavox RGB monitor (USA)  or those PHILIPS CMKII or whatever (UK) which adjusts the image to fit.


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Ok I guess I can make a secret -NTSC switch 4 u.
It will force NTSC mode and activate AUTOSCROLL. That should be easy.
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Wow! that would be nice...........Im sure other American users here would appreciate that :-)


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But don't you have a 1084S monitor?
They are 100% PAL/NTSC compatible.
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.........I have had many 1084 and 1084s Monitors........none of them really support PAL...........they display it, but you have to readjust the controls to fit the image.

But I do have a Magnovox RGB monitor (Made for Amiga) that shrinks the Image..so I can truly view PAL.............but since I have a SuperGenSX connected at all times.......I prefer NTSC, Plus I like to take my Amiga with me to places, and just wished everything ran or at least also worked in NTSC.


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When you get it working I would be very interested to learn what is the very first spell that a newb casts? Thanx!
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Hehe, sure will, I have never really played games of this type much, but your game looks cool and tempting :-)










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