I don't get it.

[Methuselas]

When I make a positive comment or suggestion, frequently I get negative feedback.

When I make a critical comment or suggest a change, I'm often personally attacked.

If I didn't already know that many of the people I'm dealing with are sharp, intelligent individuals with interests similar to mine, I'd be really offended by some of the rude treatment I've received lately.

And its not just OS4, AROS or MorphOS, original Amiga users and Natami fanatics have been just as rabid.

Considering the similarities between systems and their common point of origin, you'd think  we'd be more unified.

+1

I wholeheartedly agree. This is the problem with even posting on this site. It's just not healthy anymore. I've always supported every flavor out there, but the recent developments in the past couple of years, with the lawsuits, Moana, the X1000 and such have made the zealots come out in a fevered fury.

You can't say *ANYTHING* about one of the Amiga "flavors", be it positive or negative, without someone getting all butt hurt about it.

I once  again go back to my comment about "bitter siblings". All the BS from the past decade or so have made me wish that no investor had given Bill McEwen the time of day and the Amiga IP languished in a vault deep within the bowels of the Gateway "empire".

[EDIT] - Another thing that's annoying me is the fact that once someone has achieved "butt hurt status", they cry that the Mods aren't "doing their jobs" for being "butt hurt" in the first place, when nine times out of ten, they instigated it. Personally, I like the *LACK* of moderation around here, since Pyro took over. We're not seeing threads closed every other day, 'cos it just gets so out of hand, with the personal attacks and insults.

[Methuselas]

I have no clue on what they are thinking by introducing a high end system that the OS can't fully use in the worst economy in a generation, maybe in two generations.   Throw in a cult attitude plus very weak marketing capabilities and you have a makings of a great full blown disaster.

*ZING*!

I couldn't agree more.

It goes both ways, but at least the MorphOS team and the AROS team aren't trying to bleed every penny they can from a "pathetic market base".

[Methuselas]

@ Those who are talking about "camps."

While I can't say this isn't about camps -- there will always be someone who thinks it is -- I can guarantee that for many of us this is about _suicide._

Let's say you have a friend who managed to jump off a cliff. Now, let's say you have another friend, just like the first, who is getting ready to jump off another cliff, and you say "Stop, Amigo! Please don't jump off that cliff!" Is this motivated out of hatred? Jealousy? Anger? C'mon, get serious! It's because you don't want to see another friend get hurt.

Now, let's say you try to talk some reason into that friend, but he won't listen; he's still bound and determined to jump. Do you, A) stand their silently and let him? B) Get angry and ask him why he's doing this? C) Plead with him not to do this? Or, D) Tell him you're superior to him, so go ahead and jump!

Many Amiga fans are wondering why Hyperion and Clan are preparing to jump off a cliff. People saying things like "too expensive and/or too weak" fall into the "why are you doing this?" category, not the "silently let him" or "go ahead and jump" category. For many, this has moved from wonderment to criticism and then anger because Hyperion doesn't appear to be listening. Without a rational explanation of why this particular hardware and price ratio was chosen, how else can they react?

People like myself, who have argued that "it should be x86, but if it must be PPC, then xBox, Wii or PS3" aren't doing so out of jealousy. We're motivated out of astonishment. If you want to succeed, you need a user base, and in order to have a user base, your solution must be affordable. And, instead, we see our friend getting ready to jump off a cliff yet again.

It sad, really, but I guarantee you, it ain't about camps or jealousy or anything other than fear, disbelief and amazement.

+ Googol

I don't think I could have said it better, myself. No matter how hard your try, however, it just falls on deaf ears.....

[Methuselas]

http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/smartbook

is what OS4 should be running on. Simple, elegant, small and most of all, worth its price point. Not only that, but if it had a fully working and HTML5 compatible browser, Java and Office support, it would be popular, for people who saw it, saw the style of the Workbench ("Hey, that looks like OSX!") and its ease of use, it could add an additional boost to revenue, especially if one of these so-called "announcements" was printed in, oh I don't know, Maximum PC, for example. It would cost the "investor" next to nothing and show off a "new, portable lightweight Operating System that had *TONS* of old style games to access. I'd also like to point out that "social network gaming" is the "next, big thing". Superior, 3D graphical games aren't the gaming choice of the "masses" currently.

Wait.... what was I thinking, though. This is Genesi we're talking about here. After all Hyperion got frakked over by them too........no, that was Amiga, Inc.

Instead, they only target us. Yeah, great way to increase your market base. They're just making their point of sales smaller and smaller.

[Methuselas]

The largest BAFs are people with AROS and MacMorph who believe they are using a Amiga. WinUAE too.

Xenu. Xenu. Xenu. XENU.


Xemu. Xemu. Xemu. XEMU.


(Just to cover both.)