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Offline Methuselas

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Re: Hyperion trying to lay claim to the Amiga name?
« on: June 19, 2007, 10:01:28 AM »
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Jose wrote:
I'm normally pessimistic but I think you guys are looking at this the wrong way this time.

This is actually the best that could've happened.
Hyperion get's AmigaOS trademark (hey AInc signed up a contract that they didn't comply with, they can't be playing the innocent here) and get's Amiga brand recognition (by using AmigaOS wich is practically the same).
Genesi get's Amiga license and MOS starts being sold with Efika Amigas;)

So in the end Amiga brand recognition to everyone involved (MOS, Genesi, AInc, Hyperion) and AmigaOS is finally being developed as it should be (not that DE/OS5 crap anymore).

It's all good ;-)



That is *TOTAL* BS! I gave both parties a resolution and they sh!t on it. They preferred to squander their pitiful market away, in years of litigation. If you people were smart, you'd be happy with what you have and let the Amiga die with dignity. Without those few, pathetic people still clinging on to one side or the other, neither has *ANY* chance of making a profitable market from us. They squandered away any hopes of not making the Amiga name a laughingstock.

Just so people know, I emailed Big Mac at Amiga, Inc. after I got fed up. I started to organize a class-action suit against Amiga, Inc. for fraud and theft, over the coupon fiascos, but told him that I would work out a proposal that would help unify the entire community, behind a common goal of of re-vitalizing the Amiga, putting my civil suit against them, on hold, if they'd hear me out.

After finishing my proposal, I sent it off and only one company had the decency to respond to it and that was Hyperion, who gave me a polite 'no', claiming they have "tricks up their sleeves". I attempted to act as a mediator between all parties (something a judge will force them to do, after they've blown a ridiculous amount of money, suing each other), but they slapped me across the face. Only days after I sent my proposal, I find it ironic that Amiga, Inc. sent out emails to us "coupon holders", telling us that we would be reimbursed for our losses, blah blah. I can't go into more specifics about the conversations, 'cos unlike these "companies", I will respect a party asking my Non-disclosure, but if anyone wants to see what *I* was trying to do, I'll be more than happy to email my, as they put it, "gentleman's proposal", to them, for public consumption. I'm not an attorney, but I was a person who got sick of their bullsh!t and tried to do something about it.

They don't care about you. They only care about their own goals and roadmaps, which never concerned us, unless they could use us to get money, as cheaply as possible. *THAT* is why we got crappy motherboards. *THAT* is why there was no X86 Amiga (Remember Amithlon?). *THAT* is why it took *YEARS* to get "OS4".

You want to support something Amiga, support AROS.

Hell, support MorphOS. At least Genesi provided decent hardware.

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I should point out that Genesi is *EQUALLY* as guilty as both Amiga, Inc. and Hyperion over shady deals, but the PegasOS was a top-notch board, unlike that POS Teron Board.

Just support AROS. At least those guys (and girls - No chauvenists we!) care about what they're doing. They're not doing it, for money.

Greed is what rules the Amiga. It's always been that way.

Commodore.

Amiga, Inc. - Washington

Amiga, Inc. - Delaware (who still owe people money, but that's the "old" company).

Genesi (who still owe people money)

Hyperion (who claim to still owe people money)

ACK

Anti-Gravity (who owe me and several others for pre-paid "Boxers")

Haage & Partner

Merlancia

Jeez, do I *REALLY* need to keep going???


Just be happy with what you have. The best thing we could do is not support *ANY* of these pathetic excuses for companies. Why give them money, when all they try to do is rip us off?

They *HAD* an out - They blew it.  :roll:
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Re: Hyperion trying to lay claim to the Amiga name?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 11:17:56 AM »
@ Dammy,

My point was simply that you offer "bounties" for ports. If you don't complete the port, you don't get the money. AROS Coders, to my knowledge, haven't "taken anyone's money and ran" so to speak. The same can't be said for many of the Amiga "companies" over the years, not to mention some of the community members, looking to make a quick buck.

I have no interest in the Amiga Platform anymore. It's become a joke. Until I could get an Amiga with a current browser, OpenOffice, OpenGL support and a slew of other things I cant think of, right now, I doubt I'd change my mind.

AROS, at least, doesn't make any BS promises. They don't make "announcements", until they have something to announce.

Amiga, Inc. (as well as all the others) could learn a thing or two, from you.

The minute AROS starts offering coupons, I'm out of there, too.  ;-)
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\'And for future reference, it might be polite to ask someone if you can  quote them in your signature, rather than just citing them to make a  sales pitch.\' - Karlos. :rtf
 

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Re: Hyperion trying to lay claim to the Amiga name?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 08:53:49 PM »
@ Tron

That's almost what I proposed. ;) In fact, part of my proposal was paying *YOU* back. I probably rocked the boat on that one, but the bike idea is AWESOME.

Oh well. I tried. They lost.

I'm sorry I didn't get you paid back. =/
\'Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation.\' - Bruce Lee

\'No, sorry. I don\'t get my tits out. They\'re not actually real, you know? Just two halves of a grapefruit...\' - Miki Berenyi

\'Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.\' - Dark Helmet :roflmao:

\'And for future reference, it might be polite to ask someone if you can  quote them in your signature, rather than just citing them to make a  sales pitch.\' - Karlos. :rtf