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Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Amiga Case Screws
« on: February 16, 2015, 08:26:05 AM »
There seems to be confusion on what screws go where in a big box Amiga (A2000/3000/4000), so I would like to start a reference dialog on this.  Once a hole is stripped with too large a screw (most commonly a 6-32 is shoved into an M3), the hole is ruined.  It can be tapped larger, but not smaller.

For the outside case of the A2000/3000 the metric M4 screw is used (NEVER the coarse 6-32 so common on PC cases).

On the A4000D the three (3) outside screws on the back (2 for the case and one for the PSU) are metric M3 screws.

The A4000T being an adapted PC case (Enlight AT Tower) it uses the common 6-32 screws (both inside and outside)
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The inside of the A2000 uses several M4 screws to hold the PSU cradle in place.
The inside of the A4000D uses M3 screws for the front drive cradle, and daughterboard support beam, as well back HDD cradle.  The HDD's themselves used 6-32's (for the most part), but the floppy and CD Drives use M3's.  The A4000D's motherboard uses M3 screws to hold it in place on the metal base.
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I haven't been in the case of an A3000 in 3 years, and there are several other types of screws that may be used at some point, so please chip in and help those of us repairing/restoring/refurbishing our sweet babies.

Thank you  
    :)
« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 09:35:46 AM by danbeaver »
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2015, 11:27:11 AM »
I can tell you that Lowes and Home Depot have virtually no useful screws, but the small local Ace Hardware had a good selection.  In repairing riveted areas that fell apart, one could re-rivet them, but an M3 with a locking nut (plastic ring built in that acts like Loctite blue) works better and fits in places a rivet gun won't.  I've also found them online, but it was so easy to pop in to a local place, I rarely bothered.

I need help though on the screw size that the A4000D uses for the card's back plane.  While i save all my screws during work in a magnetic dish, some cases come devoid of proper screws leaving me "screwed."

The CPU card stand offs for the A3000/4000 can be found online.

My online sources are Jameco, MCMelectronics, Digi-key and a few others.
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 01:21:56 AM »
This is another resource: http://www.metricscrews.us/
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 01:37:22 AM »
I'm sorry, Pedophilia will land you in jail.
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2015, 02:54:34 AM »
I have spray painted the screws on an A3000, but the bitch is the matching plastic washers :-(
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2015, 05:33:46 AM »
Quote from: Tenacious;784570
Way to turn a phrase.  ;)  I've owned several Amigas, but never yet a 4000.


Why, interested?
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2015, 09:14:27 PM »
Quote from: Tenacious;784616
Ah, no.  I want to remain on the safe side of not hoarding.  :)
As I have posted before, those who accuse others of "Hoarding" only want to pay a fraction of the cost of acquiring, restoring, and preparing an Amiga for sale.  Such people have a mental disorder in which they have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy; they are generally unhappy and disappointed when they are not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve.
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2015, 10:07:54 AM »
What you will be needing is a 17 mm spacer although there is some discussion that some accelerators used another size.  In a pinch, you can take the barrel of a clear plastic Bic pen and cut it into 17 mm sections and then screw them with non-conductive washers to the MB and CPU.
 
  The 16 mm MB spacer (http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/21-16255) is close, although the threaded nylon 18.7 mm spacer could be sanded to drop its height before being attached with the nylon screws http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-13666.  There is a 19 mm MB spacer (http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/21-16225).
  You can go another route with a collection of spacers http://www.amazon.com/Spacers-Stand-off-Plastic-Accessories-Assortment/dp/B00LGB2N1Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1424252784&sr=1-1.
 
  Or go this route: http://www.mouser.com/Electromechanical/Hardware/Standoffs-Spacers/_/N-aictf?P=1z0x0msZ1z0z2t8.  Or these are almost there at 16 mm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Miniature-PCB-Supports-15-9mm-Spacer-Standoffs-Pack-of-10-/121360726820.  Or perhaps http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50-Pieces-White-Cylindrical-Nylon-66-LED-PCB-Board-Spacer-Support-5mm-x-17mm-/190916364225.
 
 
Perhaps: http://www.mart4ic.com/Spacer-Screw-Nut/10x-Nylon-Standoff-Spacer-M3-Male-x-M3-Female--17mm-c125803.html

Any other suggestions for these?

 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Amiga Case Refurbishing
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 09:33:43 PM »
A couple of updates to this thread which has morphed into an Amiga refurbishing resource:

http://www.cwe-usa.com/ (Cleveland Wire and Electronics) has for sale 23-pin D-SUB male and female solder connectors and hoods (having just received 5 F and hoods), and

http://www.metricscrews.us/  has the M3 counter sunk screws for the A4000D's PSU and to hold down the HDD brackets.  I ordered several dozen of various M3 screws in different lengths
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Amiga Parts and Refurbishing, not Just Case Screws
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 08:47:30 PM »
In addition to the direct reference by "Dutch" above,

Amiga monitor cables:
http://www.connectworld.net/cgi-bin/cwe/05MCAmiga.html

Amiga DB23 (Search):
http://www.connectworld.net/cgi-bin/cwe/process?7uLPyCcd;;15

--DB23 Switch boxes!
« Last Edit: March 24, 2015, 08:49:18 PM by danbeaver »
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Suggested Amiga Tools
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 02:41:45 AM »
As suggested my Oldsmobile_Mike, I think we should list the tools one needs for Amiga repair, restoration and modification.  I'll start with:

Screw drivers Tiny, small, regular (flat and phillips) and a torx for THOSE screws!
Dremel Tool with cutting wheel, grinder, and polishing wheels.
Hammer (nuff said)
Slow Drill (like using a hex drill bit in a Black & Decker elctric screw driver
Regular power drill (prefer cordless)
Multimeter with continuity tested
Led headlamp
Soldering Iron + solder sucker + braid + fine wire (insulated, wirewrapping type)
Hobby knife (Exacto)
Small Crescent wrench
Small tweasers
Small clamps (Kelly's or similar)
Hot glue gun
Orbital sander
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 03:58:01 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;788196
Don't forget:


:)

Better yet, substitute Kroil for the WD40 (used to loosen frozen engine blocks) and weld rebar over it.

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« Last Edit: April 23, 2015, 01:15:11 AM by danbeaver »
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Amiga Repair, Modification and Refurbishing
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2015, 01:02:12 AM »
Well as I have mentioned in several prior posts, band-aids are *REQUIRED* for anyone who opens an A3000 case and a tourniquet is helpful as well -- Lord you don't want a CSI team investigating your house after working on those.

Now while Lynchburg's Jack might ease the pain, it will likely not help in the repair aspect, but a good party after a significant upgrade sure has a better feel with Mr. Daniels at your side.  Your best Bang-for-the-Buck on pills (outside of Demerol) would be the Motrin as generic for cost vs. half-life vs. side effects to aspirin or Tylenol.

Remember, "Cold steel is your best deal."
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Software Notes: Picasso96 & File System Hex
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2015, 10:36:02 PM »
Ok, this not directly hardware related, but may be useful:

Picasso96 Settings -- For a 60 Hz Monitor

Resolution: 640 x 480
CLK: 29.82
808 520

Resolution: 800 x 600
CLK: 38.02
1032 640

Resolution: 1120 x 832
CLK: 80.44
1440 910


Resolution: 1152 X 900
CLK: 84.38
1522 931

Resolution: 1024 x 768
CLK: 84.38
1336 800

Resolution: 1280 x 1024
CLK: 108.90
1600 1126

Resolution: 1920 x 1080
CLK: 165.38
2208 1118        

 [FONT="]Hex numbers for the addition on another file system[/FONT]
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[/FONT]
[FONT="]AmiCDFS         43444653[/FONT]
  [FONT="]Fat95                 46415400/01[/FONT]
  [FONT="]FAT                    46415400[/FONT]
  [FONT="]NTFS                 4E544653[/FONT]
  [FONT="]PFS_AIO           50465300[/FONT]
  [FONT="]PDS/03              50445303[/FONT]
  [FONT="]PFS/03               50465303[/FONT]
  [FONT="]SFS/00/02          53465300/02[/FONT]
 

Offline danbeaverTopic starter

Re: Amiga Case Screws
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2015, 03:41:24 AM »
I have run into that and both Mike_442_Olds and I use LokTite "Blue" for stripped holes; the blue allows screws to be removed, the "Red" does NOT!