VERY RARE - FA or Buy It Now - Ralph Babel's "The Amiga Guru Book"!!!

[danbeaver]

The fact you reference Ralph's first edition online, is why he never released a second edition.  This is what happens when "copyright material is copied."  Why work away on a manuscript for free, or why develops new software?  Just abandon the platform and get a job you get paid for.  One can't feed their family on the results of hard work that is stolen from them.

[danbeaver]

Do you not understand the concept of Copyright?  If AFTER YOU FIRST BOUGHT (that means PAID FOR) his book and being unable to read and reference it, you then "scanned it" for YOUR OWN USE and not to defraud the author, then you can have an opinion on whether a scanned version is better than a paper version.

I own a real and valid copy of his book and see no need in a scanned version and I also have a copy of the Encyclopedia Britannica.  You know they both have this old thing called an "Index."

[danbeaver]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are saying; "Those who are good at stealing should do so?'

"Those who can, do; those who can't, teach; those who can't teach, defraud, cheat steal and on the side, teach gym?" Abbie Hoffman was selling himself and activism, not stealing the hard work of others, and was so happy with his life he later committed suicide.  You can be like him at any time.

Not respecting copyrights has damaged this community far worse the the Gould betrayal of Tramiel and Commodore.

So time to take a stand: Be an adult and act like one, or be like an adolescent acting out in an attempt to prove you can give the finger to the rest of the world.

[danbeaver]

Dear Sir Iggy,

Have a good nights sleep, and when that middle finger gets tired, grandpa, try to find a useful purpose to create things you will be remember for, not the deeds that you regret. I believe the saying they use up North is, "Be a Mench."

[danbeaver]

You have to love those who blame the victim, "You were raped because you deserve it."

Still Ralph's book is amazing and any Amiga programmer should BUY one.

[danbeaver]

Yes ! It should be DONATED to one of the Amiga programmers who can and will use it :banana:

Ah, I remember programming, sitting behind the monochrome screen typing up a bunch of code in Clipper and ending up with a major headache when it was time to go home, typing pages of code on my MSX-1 and saving it to tape .. those were the days :crazy:

Never again .. *hats off and bow* to programmers

Really?  For my first three years of programming, I typed hand written code into punch cards and then picked a ream of green and white striped paper to see if it worked. If the computer was powered down by accident (air conditioning went out), the OS was reloaded from a reel of paper tape; that's when that row of off/on toggle switches became important.

Still Ralph's book is well worth the money ♥

[danbeaver]

If I'm not mistaken I believe Ralph sold all of the copies of this book that he had printed.  If he wanted to sell more he should have printed more and I am sure they would have sold just as the first printing did.  He is the one that put people in the position of wanting a scanned copy.  So yes, I believe Ralph created this monster and then didn't like what he had created and chose to blame the community.  It would be a whole different story if he was sitting on a stack of unsold books but that is not the reality.  How can you complain about illegal copies when there are no legal copies to be had?

Ah, back to blaming the victim, sad really.

So copyright laws only exist when they are convenient to you morals; a copy for sale is right in front of you, so there is no reason to steal one!

[danbeaver]

@sprocket

I don't know you...I'm in a different camp when it comes to a second hand sale.

IF you bought this book at retail for $60, sell it for that and Ralph gets no money.

Sell it at your starting bid and double your money 60 back plus 60 = 120...
and Ralph still gets no money.

IF someone pays you buy now of $200...GREAT for you, Ralph still gets no money.

IF you really want to show us something. Promise at the least 50% to Ralph.

Just MHO,
M

The farmer who sells his crop for pennies of what it sells for in the market is not on commision; do you pay the grocer half-price and send the rest to the farmer?

[danbeaver]

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=amiga+filetype:[b][/b]pdf

How many of those authors expressly stated displeasure with their works being published on the Internet as Ralph Babel did?

[danbeaver]

Sadly, this is THE forum to meet such a group as you have described; those adolescents still fingering everybody who grew up and became responsible adults striving to support their families and THIS community in a nurturing and positive way.

[danbeaver]

The net is not a good place to really understand people... words don't seen [sic] to send how [sic] we mean them.
For all we know, everyone is a 70 year old day trader...

This thread began as a notification of a sale of an intellectually valuable and rare book for sale to the Amiga community; it quickly degraded into the merits of ignoring intellectual property rights, whether an author has any rights at all after the end of a publication run, whether the loss of those rights can hurt the community at large, and if the second sale of an item has value to the owner or the author.  Several individuals showed contempt of not only establish "rules of behavior" meant to lessen the effects the financial but also intellectual loss of property, and scorned those who adopted the "rules" as "laws."  Several individuals with secondary agenda's in their bylines, lost credibility of their proposed values, and others made flat inflammatory comments.

Reams of paper and electrons have been utilized for exactly the purpose of elucidating what one means in their writing over the past four millennia, and suffice it to say that this forum or the internet at large removes ones ability to be clear and concise is disconcerting.

[danbeaver]

@Sprocket Next time just put in on Ebay those interested will find it, no needs to post on Amiga sites. If one day I sell mine I'll do this. Kamelito

The point of the MarketPlace is to notify people of items for sale, not, as it has become, a haven for trolls and flamers.