A1200 internet

[danbeaver]

RoadShow68K is the fastest and easiest to setup TCP/IP stack (there is no configuring needed) for the OS 3.X Amiga.  Transfer numbers show that only the PPC version for OS 4.1 is maginally faster.  Twenty-five Euros to support new Amiga software development?  Priceless!

IBrowse 2.4 and AWeb are the most stable browsers for now (NetSurf 2.8 may be good, but a memory hog).  There are key-files for IBrowse on the web -- Google it; failing that PM me for the URL.

The "Amiga-experience" Cerfing the web is fine for all but the serious user; for everything else use a modern CPU & modern browser for complicated sites.  Good Luck and Good Bless.

["Cerfing" refers to Vint Cerf -- Google him if you don't know]

[danbeaver]

BilgeRat et al.,

MorphOS is a complete and good OS, though I feel it is too Mac-like. OS 4.1 is an excellent Amiga OS; I have used it almost exclusively for over a year. Both are well worth the money. You can not expect people to spend their free time programming for non-mainstream computers out of the goodness of their heart.

Yes, there are cheapskates out there who pirate movies, music and Amiga software, but others actually "support" a hobby and don't expect everything for free -- unless you are on Medicaid.

You want a free unsupported hobby, collect and play with your Barbie's. Responsible adults act responsibly and don't expect the world handed them on a plate.

[danbeaver]

MorphOS and OS 4.1 come complete with TCP stack and browsers. Open source software is not exactly free. They can be used without cost but read up on whether they are "Free."  Many of the projects listed are university supported (Linux and Gimp among others); this does not make them "free."  Chrome, like all Google products, are supported by advertising. Here is a hint: if you are not contributing anything to support the Amiga community, it will continue to wither. Same for Linux; it is supported by the contributions of others. Programming for "fun" occurs, I have done it; but I've not seen fun contribute to an environment that encourages those with talent to waste their time being taken advantage of -- WHDLoad.

Those who support nothing are not "users" but leeches, living off the blood of others.

When I spend money on an operating system and hardware in 2013, I expect some basic things to be included - one of those things is the ability to connect to the internet (or any network for that matter).



Actually, yes!  Yes you can.  Linux, BSD (open, net, and free...note the "free"), Blender, Gimp, Firefox, Chrome, etc etc etc.  It really doesn't matter about the hardware or its obscurity.  That is what open source is about.



Or... you live in 2013 where people actually code for fun and see the end product as a reward in itself.



Actually, Barbies can go for some serious money!  Too rich for my blood.

[danbeaver]

It is one thing to use software that you cannot pay for (MiamiDX and IBrowse-2.4 are examples), but you would pay for if you could. I have "keys" to both. When good software comes along, yes I mean BOTH WHDLoad and RoadShow, as well as new hardware, I vote in favor of supporting it. A flippant remark that €25 is too much, means it is too much for You!   Roadshow68K took months of work and a lot of support in the forums to be trashed by users who never tried it.

[danbeaver]

You don't say!

Read what I wrote, not what you thought I wrote.

Equating the sweat equity of universities and volunteers to bounties for basic functionality is disingenuous.  The big difference is that there are many many projects (if not most) where the support of the product is not compensated for by the end user.  The fact that you equate coding for "fun" as being "taken advantage of" speaks volumes.  Software piracy has nothing to do with open source, yet you speak as if they are one and the same.  Am I a leech, because I use an operating system I paid nothing for and people smarter than me made sure that it contained all the things I would need to get my hardware online, surfing the web, writing documents, checking email, programming in almost every language out there, and playing games?  I paid for WHDload, as it is an original project with merit and use.  I would have never paid bounties to port free software over to our systems.  Did I pay for all the games I play on WHDload?  How could I?  I purchased some of them years and years ago, but not all of them.  We need less holier than thou and more people willing to roll up their sleeves and close their wallets.

[danbeaver]

The OS's aren't that old (3.9 dates to 2002 and 4.1 is still a work in progress), but the hardware is 20-years old at least.

Browsing/IRC/FTP etc from an A1200 is a very good feeling indeed.   I think I need to connect my 1200 back up and possibly invest in Roadshow too.   Sure, it's crazy paying £25 for a TCP/IP stack in 2013 but then this is Amiga and I don't think any of us can really be considered sane.  If we were sane we'd not be using a 20 year old OS...