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Offline danbeaver

Re: Strange SCSI behaviour - maybe missing terminator?!?
« Reply #14 from previous page: October 06, 2012, 11:25:26 PM »
Again, nothing in this post will solve your issue, but since the last "unit" on the bus/chain is designated by its ID number and the controller wants to know the last device and last unit number, I have always felt that it should be a drive where this is recorded in its RDB; so I use a HDD there and a CD earlier.
 

Offline danbeaver

Re: Strange SCSI behaviour - maybe missing terminator?!?
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2012, 02:37:37 AM »
It appears to me before booting the SCSI controller scans the entire bus querying each ID (and LUN) before it does any booting. Also whenever I change a device (CF Card added or removed at end of chain -- something I no longer do) when I go to HDToolBox or Media Toolbox I get a "need to update drive" request dealing with Last ID / LUN. From this I inferred that the controller wants to be able to write this info into the RDB or someplace on the drive; hence a CDROM would have no place to write this.

In addition how can an active terminator circuit "actively dampen" a signal without a power supply?  A resistor uses the power of the signal itself to reduce that signals amount of voltage, but a circuit that attends to do a proper reduction of a signal voltage should itself be powered. If so, how can it do that without, lets say for the sake of argument, without termination power. If it does so with another power source, what is then the termination power used for?  I'm not an electrical engineer and I think in terms of digital rather than analogue, but a simple transistor setup to dampen an excessive signal voltage still needs a separate power supply, or is there another way around this?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2012, 02:50:23 AM by danbeaver »
 

Offline danbeaver

Re: Strange SCSI behaviour - maybe missing terminator?!?
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2012, 03:27:36 AM »
Yes, that was my point; it can't write last anything to a CDROM so it just keeps checking all the IDs and LUNs.

Any help with the rest of the post on how active termination circuits work without power?
 

Offline danbeaver

Re: Strange SCSI behaviour - maybe missing terminator?!?
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2012, 06:37:27 AM »
Quote from: mechy;708373
Active termination has nothing to do with term power.
mech

 Herein lies my problem, if the active termination circuits don't have anything to do with the "term[ination] power" then what or where comes the power used to keep them, well, "active?"