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Offline Acill

MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« on: May 17, 2016, 01:54:18 PM »
The guy that built his own A2000 video card is now selling a finalized ZII/III version. The first 50 are only 149 Euro, goes up to 189 after that. Check it out!

http://mntshop.bigcartel.com/product/preorder-mnt-va2000-amiga-2000-3000-graphics-card-zorro-ii-iii
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Offline F1Lupo

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 03:36:38 PM »
so cool that it's coming out in production & congrats to the developer for delivering in a short time span!  I'm tempted to get one but I'm happy with my IndiAGA in my A4000 &n honestly I'm tired of fighting with P96 from my A1200T
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Offline utri007

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 03:44:39 PM »
You have problems with picasso and towered A1200? What kind of problems? It boots to black screen and sometimes reset cures it?
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Offline F1Lupo

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 03:55:00 PM »
Quote from: utri007;808653
You have problems with picasso and towered A1200? What kind of problems? It boots to black screen and sometimes reset cures it?

actually was just referring to the head aches just to get it set up and working
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Offline Iggy

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 09:17:05 PM »
"Picasso96 compatible RTG driver"

Uh oh, better not use that name, you might have someone crawling up your ass looking for revenue.
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Offline utri007

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 09:28:05 PM »
I have two Zorro Graphics cards already. Does this has 4mb ram or more? I know It reserves 4mb from Zorro II adress space.

Just wondering, what are benefits of this card? I prefer original (old) hardware with my miggies, but if there is a good reason to buy I would buy one. Good reason is not that it is new, what is real life speed diffrence to older cards?
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Offline wawrzon

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 09:44:47 PM »
this is a project, or better work in progress, not an end user product.

im passing on bike in front of a house where this guys bureau apparently is quite often, but hestitate to bother, especially i have nothing to contribute except good wishes.
 

Offline Iggy

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 10:07:57 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;808689
this is a project, or better work in progress, not an end user product.

im passing on bike in front of a house where this guys bureau apparently is quite often, but hestitate to bother, especially i have nothing to contribute except good wishes.


AND one seriously hard to decipher paragraph.
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Offline wawrzon

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2016, 10:30:21 PM »
Quote from: Iggy;808693
AND one seriously hard to decipher paragraph.


just add missing comas, we dont need that in polish.
 

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2016, 10:34:54 PM »
Nice that we seem to have A2000-compatible video cards coming out of the woodwork these days!  This one seems a lot "rougher around the edges" than the other two, however.  Looks like it's using a full FPGA board to produce the video signal, so in theory this means this one could be more easily upgraded (sort of like the Vampire cores)?

Now if only we had a decent software solution!  *shakes fist in the general direction of the P96 guys and all the thread-trolling about them in other places already, recently*  :laughing:
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Offline Iggy

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2016, 11:20:35 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;808694
just add missing comas, we dont need that in polish.


"...where this guys bureau apparently is quite often, but hestitate to bother..."

Well, your English is still better than my Polish, but wtf does a bureau have to do with this sentence?
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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2016, 11:38:53 PM »
Quote from: utri007;808685
Does this has 4mb ram or more? I know It reserves 4mb from Zorro II adress space.

Just wondering, what are benefits of this card? I prefer original (old) hardware with my miggies, but if there is a good reason to buy I would buy one. Good reason is not that it is new, what is real life speed diffrence to older cards?

All graphics cards require a portion of the Zorro address space.  This isn't a problem on A3000/A4000 machines with their Zorro III bus, but on A2000's (with their 8MB Zorro II limitation) often you had to do various work-arounds.  For example if you had an 8MB memory board and a graphics card that required 2MB, you'd have to jumper your memory board down to 6MB in order for them to play nice together.  Or use segmented mode, or various other work-arounds.  Presumably this card has the equivalent of 4MB of video ram, or for whatever other reason requires 4MB of address space.

In any case, if you (quote) "prefer original (old) hardware", there's really no convincing you why you might need or want this board.  Is it going to help you run old games better?  Of course not.  But for people who like to run newer software, or really push the limits of their systems, more graphics card options is always better.  :D
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Offline wawrzon

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2016, 12:47:43 AM »
Quote from: wawrzon;808689
this is a project, or better work in progress, not an end user product.

im passing on bike in front of a house where this guys bureau apparently is quite often, but hestitate to bother, especially i have nothing to contribute except good wishes.


need to correct myself. its just entered distribution:

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=52153&page=3

another problem for thor, as it seems, as the p96 autors do not answered mails, the designer of the card intends though to write a p96 compatible driver anyway, even if he would have to rewrite the headers ;)
 

Offline QuikSanz

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2016, 01:51:42 AM »
@Oldsmobile_Mike,

Your right but with a good accell card you can run 128MB on the card and still have 8 meg, maybe a hair more on the bus. An 8 MB Graphics card maybe doable.

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Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: MNT VA2000 Amiga Graphics Card (Zorro II/III)
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2016, 02:28:16 AM »
Quote from: QuikSanz;808704
Your right but with a good accell card you can run 128MB on the card and still have 8 meg, maybe a hair more on the bus. An 8 MB Graphics card maybe doable.

That's something I would like to see!  I have 128MB on my accelerator, certainly don't need the extra mem in the ZII address space (except for a handful of older programs that still look for it there).  Would be interesting to see an 8MB graphics card, fully saturate the Zorro II bus, what the heck.  It's not like we really need that space.  But then you're still going to hit the limitations of the slow speed of the bus, and with newer accelerators like the Vampire going to include built-in graphics anyway, it's unlikely we'll ever see a truly "maxed out" Zorro II video card.  ;)
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