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Offline outlawal2

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2011, 04:04:44 PM »
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@Hattig
A tiny CPLD handling I/O for floppy and joyports.

@Kesa
Yes. The image with the errors was made by a forum member, so I made a proper version after that. But the image with the errors happened to be posted on FB by mistake. :)

@TCMSLP
Our goal is full support of OS3.x (as well as earlier versions :) ). But we currently only have 3.1 licenses to distribute with the boards. However, our internal distribution runs 3.9. We are currently working on supporting all the hardware (writing SANA2 drivers, hacking monitor files, etc.)

@gertsy
Kesa is not at fault at all, it is our fault for posting the wrong image :)
Yes, everything is not soldered in that picture. But everything labeled "header" will have a proper header. They are not there in the picture because the focus was not testing the functionality of those connectors at that particular moment in time - it was taken shortly after getting the very first MX board.


3.9 support is great news!  I must have read something wrong somewhere as I was under the impression that this machine wasn't going to use an 030 processor  speed and would not be quick enough to load 3.9...    I am very interested in this board now..

Thanks for the clarification..
 

Offline Forcie

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2011, 04:27:12 PM »
@commodorejohn
Yes, you can use both DVI and VGA monitors. Also, with the 15KHz video expansion, you can also use classic Amiga RGB monitors for classic screenmodes. I am getting one myself (classic Amiga graphics looks best on one! And I love working in DPaintIV on a real RGB screen) but the actual 15KHz expansion board is not done yet.

@Darrin
Sure, I prefer OS 3.1 myself. But remember that OS 3.9 is not only graphical changes but also a truckload of bugfixes. :)

@outlawal2
You are perhaps thinking about the old Natami prototype using a C-One board that was started back in 2003.
Our current development board has a 68060 expansion card attached. But we have developed a brand new 68k CPU architecture called "N68050" that will soon be powering the Natami system.

Btw, a 030 is not too weak for OS3.9. I ran OS3.9 just fine on my A600 with 42MHz 030 ;)
 

Offline commodorejohn

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2011, 04:37:48 PM »
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Yes, you can use both DVI and VGA monitors. Also, with the 15KHz video expansion, you can also use classic Amiga RGB monitors for classic screenmodes. I am getting one myself (classic Amiga graphics looks best on one! And I love working in DPaintIV on a real RGB screen) but the actual 15KHz expansion board is not done yet.
Beautiful :) I was afraid I'd have to use a DVI-D LCD with it...
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Offline F1Lupo

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2011, 04:43:48 PM »
looking nice:afro:..geez I won't have time at all to mess with my classics with all this new stuff coming out
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Offline _ThEcRoW

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2011, 05:10:57 PM »
estimated price?
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Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2011, 05:12:29 PM »
The wait... its the silent killer :)

I am so fired up to get this
 

Offline SamuraiCrow

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2011, 05:14:50 PM »
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estimated price?


When first released it will probably cost about the same as a SAM440ep did when it was new:  about 500 Euros for the main board.
 

Offline outlawal2

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2011, 05:49:22 PM »
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@commodorejohn
Yes, you can use both DVI and VGA monitors. Also, with the 15KHz video expansion, you can also use classic Amiga RGB monitors for classic screenmodes. I am getting one myself (classic Amiga graphics looks best on one! And I love working in DPaintIV on a real RGB screen) but the actual 15KHz expansion board is not done yet.

@Darrin
Sure, I prefer OS 3.1 myself. But remember that OS 3.9 is not only graphical changes but also a truckload of bugfixes. :)

@outlawal2
You are perhaps thinking about the old Natami prototype using a C-One board that was started back in 2003.
Our current development board has a 68060 expansion card attached. But we have developed a brand new 68k CPU architecture called "N68050" that will soon be powering the Natami system.

Btw, a 030 is not too weak for OS3.9. I ran OS3.9 just fine on my A600 with 42MHz 030 ;)


Once again thanks for the clarification.  I am definitely interested in this board now...  Will await further details...
 

Offline JimS

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2011, 06:11:18 PM »
With the original Minimig, the Replay, and the Natami, there are a lot of choices for retro Amiga fans. Not bad for something that was supposed to have "died" back in 1994!
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Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2011, 06:22:29 PM »
Wait, wait, wait.  WHERE ARE THE 24 PHONE JACKS?
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Offline Forcie

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2011, 06:41:05 PM »
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Wait, wait, wait.  WHERE ARE THE 24 PHONE JACKS?

Fortunately, we have the common sense to ignore Thierry Atheist and his requests ;)
 

Offline Lando

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2011, 06:49:40 PM »
I never ever thought I'd see a completed board.  I thought this whole project was yet another pipe dream.  The first piece of new, Amiga-related hardware I've wanted to buy in 10 years.
 

Offline DCAmiga

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2011, 07:41:54 PM »
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When first released it will probably cost about the same as a SAM440ep did when it was new: about 500 Euros for the main board.

Hmm not to bad for 133mhz 68k Miggy but is that price the M'Board plus '060 board or just the M'Board plus N050 softcore ??
 
Also if I understand, we wont have to worry about patching WB then ??
 
From the pages I've read over there, the N050 is really punching out the numbers (68k enhancement/FPU enhancement).  
 
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Offline SamuraiCrow

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2011, 02:18:44 AM »
@DCAmiga

The '060 board will cost extra.  Most people won't need it.  By the time the N050 will be fully tested there will likely be an N070 softcore out.  The only part missing from the N070 will be the MMU of the 68060.
 

Offline commodorejohn

Re: Second NatAmi MX board assembled!
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2011, 02:25:21 AM »
Is the MMU likely to be added in future revisions?
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